Match Day Thread Sunderland AFC v Sheffield United – Championship Play-off Final - Saturday 24th May 2025 - KO 15:00

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When a manager starts losing his grip, his team soon follows. Wilder looked lost and made bewildering subs.

In fairness he did okay over the season. 90 points is always a good effort. He had a good squad but a bit of upheaval too. But it was under pressure that he failed. In the final and at a few other pinch points.

You better edit that to 92 before Wilder gets on to you! <whistle>
 
There were endless posts regarding how Sheff Utd were 'investing' in the future by bringing in Kieffer Moore, Brereton Diaz, Cannon, etc.

It was suggested we do the same and that it would 'push us over the line'.

I argued, at the time, that buying players like those was no guarantee of promotion and that failing would leave us with highly paid players in the Championship. Conversely we'd have those players in the PL when, in my opinion, none are capable of succeeding at that level. How would we feel if our first signing was Kieffer Moore or Campbell?

Sheff Utd are heading for trouble and a huge conundrum in my opinion. Do they 'invest' in more players, while the parachute money vanishes, knowing they risk failure again. Can they afford to sack Wilder and take a flier with a new man who would want his own staff, players and style ...

... whatever happens it'll be an interesting sideshow next season.
 
The only thing SD did well was sell us to KLD

Him and CM were shocking owners that were so far out of their depth it was unreal

They are in the past now, thank God as the club was f**ked under them

KLD is a legend, love the bloke and KS deserves so much praise

Onwards and upwards with those 2 involved

The club was fooked before he stepped in. Like him or loathe him we were on a downward spiral to hell and he was instrumental in stabilising us and we are where we are now partly because of him .


Aye I’m with you on this one. He had no business buying Sunderland, he couldn’t afford it and he gambled our future thinking it was a slam dunk promotion so he could flip it once we were back in the championship.

Parachute payments taken away so he could buy the club. Then academy assets sold time and time again. We were on the brink with him and we’re very fortunate KLD came in when he did.

He may be a decent bloke, I’ll never know but I can never think his heart was in the right place when I look back at what went on when he was owner and how he came to be owner.


I didn't see anyone else jumping in to take us on.
Don't get me wrong, it wasn't great but we were in freefall and he took a gamble. He forked out for Will grigg <laugh>
Whatever anyone thinks of his motives, we are where we are now due to his intervention. We could of been a lot worse off.



When you look at the Donald situation....He saw an opportunity, a club in free fall with little value at that time. The playing staff were very substandard, BUT, Had great infrastructure, and most important had a hard core supporter base that would return in droves IF he could bring the slightest improvement. It was a risk, but a risk worth taking in his eyes for a short term financial gain...I'm convinced he was only interested in a short term "financial transaction" his ability as a football owner was laid bare in the Netflix documentary. He was offered a great deal by Short, who just wanted the club off his hands, and with no one else prepared to take a risk, Donald was the only show in town. He saw an opportunity to make a few quid. THE END
Thank god that era has now ended. We now had an owner with a plan and strategy for our clubs future and we all (well, most of us) are so happy with where we are. I love the way Sunderland are now organically growing with a self sustaining plan rather than selling our soul to anyone who will use our club for their own agenda.

Well you said it. No one else was prepared to take the risk :emoticon-0148-yes:

He did, he wasn't great, he got a deal with a great owner. Maybe he had better offers as was reported. Who knows. We're back in the premier League anyway :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
Absolutely not having this Stewart Donald love in mind. Should be banned from our games not taking up a seat at one of the biggest moments in our recent history. Shambolic behaviour anyone being ok with him.

He tried to sell the lad that lifted the trophy before he'd even played for the first team and succeeded in selling a load of young talents before we got a chance to see them, just to keep the lights on.

Took the club to its lowest ever position.

Employed Phil ****ing Parkinson.

Employed his mates from Non-League to run our academy which nearly cost us our CAT1 status, we wouldn’t be a PL club right now without our CAT1 status as Speakman would've never came, Rigg would be gone and players like Jobe/Mayenda wouldn't have joined.

Lied continuously about SAFC fans. I mean the whole kidnapping thing, does nobody remember that???

Going on podcasts and saying stuff like 'the piss taking stops now' and then giving the fans the biggest load of pisstaking they've ever seen.

Used the biggest cheat code in the EFL (parachute payments) to buy the club and never repaid them.

Employed nobody who actually knew how to run a football club. I'm sorry but you can't have your heart in the right place but then proceed to run the club like he did.

**** him. Should be spat on, not praised. He's a genuinely disgusting person.


The Phil Parkinson who has got Wrexham 3 successive promotions and into the championship? :emoticon-0148-yes:

Personally I'm not a PP fan but,,, there you go ;)
 
Absolutely not having this Stewart Donald love in mind. Should be banned from our games not taking up a seat at one of the biggest moments in our recent history. Shambolic behaviour anyone being ok with him.

He tried to sell the lad that lifted the trophy before he'd even played for the first team and succeeded in selling a load of young talents before we got a chance to see them, just to keep the lights on.

Took the club to its lowest ever position.

Employed Phil ****ing Parkinson.

Employed his mates from Non-League to run our academy which nearly cost us our CAT1 status, we wouldn’t be a PL club right now without our CAT1 status as Speakman would've never came, Rigg would be gone and players like Jobe/Mayenda wouldn't have joined.

Lied continuously about SAFC fans. I mean the whole kidnapping thing, does nobody remember that???

Going on podcasts and saying stuff like 'the piss taking stops now' and then giving the fans the biggest load of pisstaking they've ever seen.

Used the biggest cheat code in the EFL (parachute payments) to buy the club and never repaid them.

Employed nobody who actually knew how to run a football club. I'm sorry but you can't have your heart in the right place but then proceed to run the club like he did.

**** him. Should be spat on, not praised. He's a genuinely disgusting person.



I'm not promoting a love in with SD.
I just don't think he was as bad as some think.
And even if he was as bad , I'm glad he came in when we were at a really low ebb because it's brought us KLD and back to the premier League.
Get my drift ? :emoticon-0148-yes: <cheers>
 
The club was fooked before he stepped in. Like him or loathe him we were on a downward spiral to hell and he was instrumental in stabilising us and we are where we are now partly because of him .





I didn't see anyone else jumping in to take us on.
Don't get me wrong, it wasn't great but we were in freefall and he took a gamble. He forked out for Will grigg <laugh>
Whatever anyone thinks of his motives, we are where we are now due to his intervention. We could of been a lot worse off.





Well you said it. No one else was prepared to take the risk :emoticon-0148-yes:

He did, he wasn't great, he got a deal with a great owner. Maybe he had better offers as was reported. Who knows. We're back in the premier League anyway :emoticon-0148-yes:
When the full story comes out, there will be lots of humble pie to be eaten.
Charlie, knacked the job here, but both of them did not have enough money needed to do the job, but Charlie introduced Juan who brought in KLD, and it's history as they say.
 
When the full story comes out, there will be lots of humble pie to be eaten by lots of fans.
Charlie, knacked the job here, but both of them did not have the money needed, but Charlie introduced Juan who brought in KLD, and it's history as they say.
You clearly know the full story Bob, so please tell us. Otherwise your mates will continue to get castigated by the supporters. And in the absence of anything to the contrary, quite rightly.
 
There were endless posts regarding how Sheff Utd were 'investing' in the future by bringing in Kieffer Moore, Brereton Diaz, Cannon, etc.

It was suggested we do the same and that it would 'push us over the line'.

I argued, at the time, that buying players like those was no guarantee of promotion and that failing would leave us with highly paid players in the Championship. Conversely we'd have those players in the PL when, in my opinion, none are capable of succeeding at that level. How would we feel if our first signing was Kieffer Moore or Campbell?

Sheff Utd are heading for trouble and a huge conundrum in my opinion. Do they 'invest' in more players, while the parachute money vanishes, knowing they risk failure again. Can they afford to sack Wilder and take a flier with a new man who would want his own staff, players and style ...

... whatever happens it'll be an interesting sideshow next season.

This is where KLD sets himself apart from the ownership of Quinn and Short. He's capable of ignoring the outside noise from those screaming for us to blow millions like previous regimes to get us to the promised land.
 
When the full story comes out, there will be lots of humble pie to be eaten.
Charlie, knacked the job here, but both of them did not have enough money needed to do the job, but Charlie introduced Juan who brought in KLD, and it's history as they say.

If there was a story it would've come out by now Bob not that anyone would really be interested imo.

It's been years now and neither Donald nor Methven, despite having big mouths, have said anything.

Between them they put up £5m so not much of a risk to buy a club the size of Sunderland, now worth @£180m

KLD had lived/studied in the UK, watched football here and comes from a football family ...

... he wanted to become involved here and didn't need to be 'brought in' by anyone.

I'm sorry mate but, if you want to defend these two, you'll need to stop prevaricating and actually say something.

The reality is that Donald and Methven are as much a part of the past as Grigg or Simon Grayson, all but forgotten.

We have the Premier League to look forward to so this all needs putting to bed ...

... if you have something to say just say it or let it drop, it's starting to look like a grudge against the club.
 
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If there was a story it would've come out by now Bob not that anyone would really be interested imo.

It's been years now and neither Donald nor Methven, despite having big mouths, have said anything.

Between them they put up £5m so not much of a risk to buy a club the size of Sunderland, now worth @£180m

KLD had lived/studied in the UK, watched football here and comes from a football family ...

... he wanted to become involved here and didn't need to be 'brought in' by anyone.

I'm sorry mate but, if you want to defend these two, you'll need to stop prevaricating and actually say something..

The reality is that Donald and Methven are as much a part of the past as Grigg or Simon Grayson, all but forgotten.

We have the Premier League to look forward to so this all needs putting to bed ...

... if you have something to say just say it or let it drop, it's starting to look like a grudge against the club.
Ok