The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 15th August)

Eireleeds1 said:

I am of the belief, no evidence of course that signings are unduly over implicated with us due to the ownership structure. How many of the big 11 have to give the green light for a signing. Is it a majority or unanimous decision required and how long does it take such agreement

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BillysStatue said:

49ers enterprises is an investment company, no different to Goldman Sachs ... they don't only invest in sports clubs, but have investments in software and infrastructure companies as well for a clue

The investors invest based on what they've been sold, and they can either invest in the entire fund or in specific investments, like Leeds

As investors they won't be involved in decisions regarding transfers as they won't be asked to fund the transfers due to the money already being in the fund ... they may be asked to consider investing more to help guarantee their investment will succeed, but that still won't allow them decision-making powers

The fund managers (Marathe and Martins) control the money and decide where to invest and how much ... they will run Leeds United's finances and sign off funding of transfers and contracts ... they will also make all decisions on sales and loans, investors won't

The problem any fund faces is that if the investment starts to lose its sparkle, investors may start to consider withdrawing their money by selling their shares in the fund ... in the case of investment in Leeds, any selling of shares will be caveated by only being able to sell back to 49ers and not on the open market, like you would be able to do with Tesco shares for example ... this is to stop somebody buying up all the smaller shares in Leeds to try and force a potential takeover

Paraag is the king pin at Leeds, he will be making all the calls with his business partners and his management team ... investors are along for the ride and they have to trust the fund manager's judgement, and if they don't like it they can take their money out which isn't helpful for the fund ... expect there to be a limit on how long the shares in Leeds need to be held before they can withdraw, and expect it to be 1 to 3 years before an investor in Leeds can sell their shares back to 49ers at the then market value

So if you're not happy with transfers and money being spent, Paraag's your man

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lufctommo said:

There were rumours of two player coming in in time for West Brom. If that's the case we really need to see see some movement today with a view of finalising it tomorrow otherwise it'll be pretty much the same team as against Birmingham.

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wakeybreakyheart said:

Well it's either that or become angry.

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BillysStatue said:

Players like Gelhardt don't suddenly become bad ... we know the talent's there, the manager just needs to use the talent, work hard with them and improve them ... strong foundation, make it count

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Whitejock said:

I honestly believe the wee lad doesn't know whether he's coming or going. He recently revealed that he feels he'd be better as an AM, & I agree, or as a short-arse to a big man up front, perhaps. But after everyone telling him for years that he was a superb striker, the compliments have turned to shirrikins. I think he's having a crisis of confidence, myself - & Farke isn't helping by playing him up front on his own whilst he's going through it, further eroding his confidence.

You'd think we'd have learned with Jay-Roy Grot.

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wakeybreakyheart said:

The top six prem clubs are where we should be loaning from

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wakeybreakyheart said:

I don't know but you will be there to give them your disgust. You must jump down from your lofty perch and wade into the south stand and give them forty lashes of your tongue.

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Eireleeds1 said:

Got most of that already but thanks for the reply. Take for example though sports and Thomas the golfers who are minority investors, Ricky Fowler pulled out. When interviewed these guys really hadn’t a clue and spoke about how cool it’d be to eventually qualify for the champions league and attend games at Elland road blah blah. American bull and clearly a couple of seasons of failure or maybe less and these guys are likely to pull their cash. Are the major investors any different you’d wonder

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wakeybreakyheart said:

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Whitejock said:

True story. 2 transfers arranged by the 49ers. A linebacker & a young quarterback. Sadly, they still don't understand .....

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Jammy 07 said:

Going to ER now is more like going to a show at the theatre, it's an event and a performance, not quite a pantomime yet but definitely getting that way. We watch, we laugh, we grimace and then sometimes we booooo.

Unless of course we win, then we applaud and demand an encore the following week

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Aski said:

"Oh no it isn't"

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Aski said:

Is one of them The Fridge ?

Apparently he was able to play full back, as well as his natural position, so I'm sure he could fill in at left back.

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