Ehab Allam interview

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Fiddled a dodgy deal in selling the club and a mortgage on the ground? that started us on the slippery slope mate
But he does great interviews saying he loves us etc
Great pr man
Henchman for that dodgy **** at leeds and got hauled over the coals about the sacking of a female worker hmmmm
Halo slipping

He fiddled nothing and can you point me to his coal hauling?

Halo slipping. <doh>
 
No, he didn't. The Wonga sponsorship bought the naming rights to the stadium and changed it back to St James' Park, not Ashley. Even a scummy payday loan company cares more about Newcastle Utd's history than that fat ****.

He once turned up to a meeting with me in a helicopter, just to tell me he was going to knock me for £30k, I know he's an arsehole.

But he's not behaved anywhere near as badly at Newcastle, as our pair of Herberts have here.
 
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Newcastle fans have staged walkouts, and Ashley renamed St James' Park to 'Sports Direct Arena'. I think this idea that Newcastle fans don't like Ashley because they think they should be challenging for top 4 is bollocks. I'd say they just want the same things we do i.e. an owner that gives a **** about the club.

Suppprters of every club want to aspire to greater things. Living amongst toon fans though, there is a large element with unrealistic expectations about being top 6 and challenging in europe.

Similarity with Ashley and Allams. Are that they are running both clubs with no additonal investment. Newcastle especially had a culture of ambitious recritment under the Hall and Sheppard ownerships and the contrast with current board policy of living within their means is alien to a lot of their fans.

Most new owners have an investment plan at the start and are initially popular. Once the money is spent and a more sustainable model kicks in, then popularity wanes in the vast majority of cases.
 
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Managed properly, this reset could provide a real opportunity for Allams to create some real momentum and a feelgood factor not seen since that era Pearson was able to generate. Are they really that thick that they can't see it, or is it just bloody mindedness? That is a reason why they continue to frustrate me.
100% this.

Old chuffers trying to make out the situation is binary, just to have a pop at someone else on here, are part of the problem in this debate because the Allams' successes and failures are numerous and nuanced.

But Askew's quote nicely encapsulates the Allams' failures - they have a chance to create momentum and goodwill and they don't even understand that opportunity, let alone see it, let alone exploit it. If they did one more positive thing this summer, it should be to employ a good sports marketing expert (to guide the good people the club already employs) and let that individual get on with the job unfettered, with the vice-chairman melting into the background to enjoy what he does best - financial spreadsheets.
 
100% this.

Old chuffers trying to make out the situation is binary, just to have a pop at someone else on here, are part of the problem in this debate because the Allams' successes and failures are numerous and nuanced.

But Askew's quote nicely encapsulates the Allams' failures - they have a chance to create momentum and goodwill and they don't even understand that opportunity, let alone see it, let alone exploit it. If they did one more positive thing this summer, it should be to employ a good sports marketing expert (to guide the good people the club already employs) and let that individual get on with the job unfettered, with the vice-chairman melting into the background to enjoy what he does best - financial spreadsheets.
Do you think they don’t see it? I think they do see it but choose not to do it. Look how well they have managed finances during lockdown with no fans. Anything extra we get through the door is a bonus probably to them

maybe once and for all we can stop the the allams are thick/useless don’t understand football
They understand it and choose their own way of managing a football club
It isn’t to many’s tastes etc but it is what it is
 
Do you think they don’t see it? I think they do see it but choose not to do it. Look how well they have managed finances during lockdown with no fans. Anything extra we get through the door is a bonus probably to them

maybe once and for all we can stop the the allams are thick/useless don’t understand football
They understand it and choose their own way of managing a football club
It isn’t to many’s tastes etc but it is what it is

First few posts on this interview thread were criticising Ehab precisely for focussing on the spreadseets and financial aspect. Soulless apparently.
 
No, I'd have sacked him when we went down. I'll give him credit for getting us back up as champions but he still leaves a lot to be desired as a manager.

I wanted him gone after last season, and again in february after ipswich when we were in erratic form and looked to be screwng it up.

That said he's done enough this season to prove himself as talented young manager. Yeah he'll gain experience and improve over time, but the only area I would say desparately needs to improve further is his handling of the media.

I'm glad he's proved me wrong. What he achieved last year in the context of the previous year shouldn't be underestimated. Hes got the players buying into his system now which bodes well for the coming season.
 
I think most football club owners are unscrupulous. Without getting too political, even Leicester's owners have dodgy links to Thailand's military junta.

I think most football fans are willing to turn a blind eye to the morally bankrupt **** their owners do outside of football so long as they run the club properly. Leicester and Man City's owners fit this bill. They don't particularly care where the money comes from as long as the club is managed well and fans love them for it.

In the case of the Allams and people like Ashley and the Glazers, they're bigger arseholes when it comes to managing the club and fans hate them for it. I dare say the Allams would have a more positive reputation in Hull if they had nothing to do with the club to begin with, what with all the investments and donations to hospitals etc. Newcastle fans would rather have people who chop journalists up in embassies as their owners over that fat prick Ashley, which speaks volumes about his running of the club.

The choice is between a morally-bankrupt rich tosser who does right by the club or a morally-bankrupt rich tosser who doesn't.
 
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Do you think they don’t see it? I think they do see it but choose not to do it. Look how well they have managed finances during lockdown with no fans. Anything extra we get through the door is a bonus probably to them

maybe once and for all we can stop the the allams are thick/useless don’t understand football
They understand it and choose their own way of managing a football club
It isn’t to many’s tastes etc but it is what it is
That's exactly what it is. It's not the 'old duffers 'like me that are part of the problem it's the constant swipes and whinges from those 'supporters' who think they know how to run a club better. Although in some cases that doesn't run to putting their hands in their pockets and buying a match ticket.
 
Do you think they don’t see it? I think they do see it but choose not to do it. Look how well they have managed finances during lockdown with no fans. Anything extra we get through the door is a bonus probably to them

maybe once and for all we can stop the the allams are thick/useless don’t understand football
They understand it and choose their own way of managing a football club
It isn’t to many’s tastes etc but it is what it is
They understand the finances of football.

They don’t understand the marketing of football, or recognise that as an opportunity to improve the finances.

Once again, it not as simple as saying they’re smart/they’re stupid. They can be both at the same time.
 
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They understand the finances of football.

They don’t understand the marketing of football, or recognise that as an opportunity to improve the finances.

Once again, it not as simple as saying they’re smart/they’re stupid. They can be both at the same time.
But again Al I think they do understand and choose to not do it. It’s maddening and we know there are loads of easy wins but they just won’t do it.
 
But again Al I think they do understand and choose to not do it. It’s maddening and we know there are loads of easy wins but they just won’t do it.
Well you must know Ehab better than most then. Because he has never shown that he has that understanding in any decisions or statements I’ve seen him make.
 
It's been an interesting read .. seeing the arguments for and against the Allams. I think we all acknowledge they've made mistakes and glaring ones at that .. I think it's also fair to say their policy of being frugal has paid dividends given the current climate. Timing has obviously had a large part in all of this but credit still has to be given for keeping the club on a sound footing. But I do recall them saying they wouldn't put another penny of their own into the club, even before covid struck us.

I just wish they developed a little empathy and understanding of what a football club is all about .. and how much it means to the fans. As has been illuded to previously there are so many opportunities, especially on the back of a successful season, to encourage fans back, to get them onside, to expand the younger generation of fans. But the opening gambit in his interview is how we punched above our weight as far as expenditure is concerned. I just get the feeling it's all about him .. look at me type stuff.

I've said before be careful of what you wish for .. and new owners can be a good thing as well as a bad thing .. sometimes it's better the devil you know. But I can't help feeling if Ehab took a back seat and put a figurehead in the seat who understood football things would run much more smoothly and fans would again warm to returning.

Afraid by hook or crook their presence is divisive .. and that won't change.