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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
    24
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brb said:
You missed my point. You can't just look at video and say, yes, that's hundred percent authentic. Surely I'm merely doing what you do with inofrmation you are contrary to, not taking it at face value.

My example was, to me, it appeared it was hot off the press, but then I find it's 5 days old, then find it's 10 days old, now you know as well has what I do, within the space of 10 days, that opinion could have changed for a variety of reasons, he was clearly venting off some steam.

But somehow you want me to listen to it, and once I've done that, accept it as genuine, sorry bruv but it don't work like that for me. How many times have I challenged newspaper articles, regarding photos and stories and proved them different from another angle.

It seems you don't abide by your own rules, regarding facts, you are just like the sheep you complain about, you follow whatever suits your narrative <laugh>

I will probably listen to it again sometime, but probably not for the reasons you would like ;)
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you can do what you like fella, no skin off my nose but you are obviously trying a dig at why im gullible and you are not <laugh>.....

my only game is to put it out there>>>>>>its up 2 others what they make of it...........<wink>

by the way i also think this is a sham............
 
aberdude said:
you can do what you like fella, no skin off my nose but you are obviously trying a dig at why im gullible and you are not <laugh>.....

my only game is to put it out there>>>>>>its up 2 others what they make of it...........<wink>

by the way i also think this is a sham............
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Nowt wrong in putting stuff out there, as long as it don't become obsessive and you fail to look beyond your own reasoning. I've not expressed a view on his rant in that video, there are too many eqausions to add up, before I could do that. They would be;

Who is he
What did he say
Is the source quoting it acurrately
When did he say it
Does the source of information differ from others
What are those differences
What's his political stance
How does that affect is opinion
How much time has lapsed since he said
Why did he say
What has been said since
Has his opinion changed since
Is there any factual evidence to back up any claims
Is he away with the fairies
I could sit here and write this list all fooking day!

Where your stance is you see pixies down the bottom of your magical garden ;)
 
West WindsR said:
I was probably a bit too young for most of his career to know enough first-hand but James always looks **** on Premier League Years and the like. 53 England caps though is no mean feat when we had some reasonable goalkeepers.
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He was very good when he was coming through as a promising keeper and looked the business. Got to keep in mind this was when we had the likes of Seaman in a an Arsenal team that was very solid at the back. James went to Liverpool and didn't seem to cope well with being under scrutiny every time he made a mistake, this was no better with England. His head seemed to go, and his confidence, and he just wasn't as good as he had been. In his later years though he became more reliable (think his mental toughness was just a bit better) and gained England recalls and showed himself to be a very capable keeper.

He mostly gets remembered for his dodgy period though. Harshly if you ask me, that's the problem with being a keeper I guess!
 
brb said:
Nowt wrong in putting stuff out there, as long as it don't become obsessive and you fail to look beyond your own reasoning. I've not expressed a view on his rant in that video, there are too many eqausions to add up, before I could do that. They would be;

Who is he
What did he say
Is the source quoting it acurrately
When did he say it
Does the source of information differ from others
What are those differences
What's his political stance
How does that affect is opinion
How much time has lapsed since he said
Why did he say
What has been said since
Has his opinion changed since
Is there any factual evidence to back up any claims
Is he away with the fairies
I could sit here and write this list all fooking day!

Where your stance is you see pixies down the bottom of your magical garden ;)
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what a fking knobend <laugh>.....i`ll not spend the same amount of time on you ......so whatever fella, i couldnt give a fk....covid is a con, my view and do with it what you want

dont tell me i`ll do it for you

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aberdude said:
what a fking knobend <laugh>.....i`ll not spend the same amount of time on you ......so whatever fella, i couldnt give a fk....covid is a con, my view and do with it what you want

dont tell me i`ll do it for you

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Meltdown :emoticon-0114-dull:
 
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Archers Road said:
So how do governments weigh the cost in lives against the economic costs? Because at some point they're all going to have to. And it's no good saying you can't put a price on a life, because lost livelihoods come at great cost too.
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In the coronavirus era either humans die or capitalism does
 
brb said:
I didn't follow it word for word or digest what was said, but yeah translation appears correct. I put on the Italian subtitles that makes it easier to read, although his words are pronounced clearly.

He used the word menzogna a few times means lie.
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Definitely the correct translation. Whether he's right is another matter.
 
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Archers Road said:
So how do governments weigh the cost in lives against the economic costs? Because at some point they're all going to have to. And it's no good saying you can't put a price on a life, because lost livelihoods come at great cost too.
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They already tried.

That went well.
 
yossarian said:
Definitely the correct translation. Whether he's right is another matter.
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It seemed a strange rant, it catches my curiosity. Out of interest, are you aware/knowledgeable of any political swaying behind his comments or would you suggest, it's more a personal opinion based on no evidential fact or foundation?

Edit; before aberdude jumps in, by curiosity, I mean, I'm intrigued to what makes people think particular ways, not intrigued that he could be telling the truth. In short it came across a bit fruit loopy.
 
brb said:
It seemed a strange rant, it catches my curiosity. Out of interest, are you aware/knowledgeable of any political swaying behind his comments or would you suggest, it's more a personal opinion based on no evidential fact or foundation?

Edit; before aberdude jumps in, by curiosity, I mean, I'm intrigued to what makes people think particular ways, not intrigued that he could be telling the truth. In short it came across a bit fruit loopy.
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The guy has his fingers in many pies, is a Forza Italia mp, newspaper editor, mayor and art critic. Hard to know whether there's political motivation. I'd say it's his own personal opinion.

btw, slightly off-topic. have you ever seen this
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yossarian said:
The guy has his fingers in many pies, is a Forza Italia mp, newspaper editor, mayor and art critic. Hard to know whether there's political motivation. I'd say it's his own personal opinion.

btw, slightly off-topic. have you ever seen this
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Yeah, I noted his political history etc, I'm with you in agreement that it is more a personal opinion he holds.
 
brb said:
I've certainly never perceived myself as an expert, I give a personal opinion, nothing more, nothing less, don't forget I'm the open one, to being a Tory voter in all this, so I certainly could never be accused of having a bias agenda.

As for PPE, I don't think those words have ever been typed by me, in regards to care homes. My main moan has been about the end of life forms, and what I saw as sacrificing our elderly. How should we have handled it, I don't know, I'm not a medic or a scientist, but I'm damn sure it could have been handled better than it was. Maybe we need to look to Germany and South Korea for the answers.
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You're pretty open-minded and unbiased on this Covid topic brb, whether you vote tory or not. It's just a shame you have to say you vote tory to be considered unbias on here by some (not the poster you were talking to either). But therein lies the problem.
 
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