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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%
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Fair points, and I would certainly prefer to run a business of almost any size in the UK rather than France. But I suspect I might prefer to be a low/mid level private sector employee in France. Speculation, will never be tested. I have never really understood the productivity stats either how they are calculated or what they actually mean. But they get trotted out as a problem a lot.
Yes, cant disagree with that.
 
im actually a soft leaver. :emoticon-0100-smile

Although I must say I was surprised today the amount of people that were talking up a 'No deal' and even the PM saying she is having a cabinet meeting tomorrow re No deal. I was also interested to hear that they have put £4b aside for preparations.

The Mogg has changed his tune
 
meanwhile in france
France prepares 'last resort' chemical weapon that can be smothered around Paris to keep Yellow Vest rioters away from key buildings as anti-Macron protests continue
  • French security forces could smother centre of Paris with debilitating powder
  • Chemical can be spread across area of size of six football pitches in ten seconds
  • Police desperate after five weekends of 'Yellow Vest' rioting around France
  • Paris alone saw 168 arrests with police using water cannon, batons and tear gas
By Peter Allen In Paris for MailOnline
Published: 19:38 AEDT, 17 December 2018 | Updated: 23:42 AEDT, 17 December 2018

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French security forces are ready to smother the centre of Paris with a ‘last resort’ chemical weapon in a bid to keep protesters away from key buildings, it has emerged.
Astonishing revelations about the debilitating powder – which can be spread across an area the size of six football pitches in just ten seconds – highlights the increasing desperation of President Emmanuel Macron’s administration as it faces up to a law and order crisis.
The country has been hit by five straight weeks of violence sparked by the Yellow Vests protest movement that has seen national monuments including the Arc de Triomphe ransacked.
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French riot Police disperse demonstrators with tear gas during a protest of the Yellow Vests movement against rising costs of living they blame on high taxes in Paris on Saturday
There were 168 arrests in Paris on Saturday alone as the demonstrators – who are named after their high visibility jackets – fought running battles with police, who responded with water cannon, baton charges and tear gas.
Now senior officers have confirmed that some of the 14 armoured cars deployed by gendarmes contained ‘a radical device that was only to be used as a last resort’ against their own citizens.
A gun-like distributor on the vehicles’ turrets can spray the powder over 430,500 sq. ft. in ten seconds, Marianne magazine reports.
The high-density noxious product contains the same power as 200 tear gas grenades, and is designed to knock people out indiscriminately in an emergency.
A source at the Paris police prefecture said: ‘If a large crowd forced barriers through the security perimeter, then the powder would be used as a last resort in order to stop them.'
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France has been hit by five straight weeks of violence by the Yellow Vests protest movement that has seen national monuments including the Arc de Triomphe ransacked
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There were 168 arrests in Paris on Saturday alone as the demonstrators fought running battles with police, who responded with water cannon, baton charges and tear gas
...
French police attack protestors inside a Burger King during riots
But it is sure to raise concerned questions among civic rights groups, as well as monitoring organisations, including the Hague-based Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, of which France is a member.
Colonel Richard Carminache, of the Gendarmerie, confirmed that the controversial devices had ‘never been used in cities to my knowledge.’
Each distribution would result in ‘a highly concentrated teargas cloud, the equivalent of 200 grenades in one go,’ said Col. Carminache, who added: ‘It’s best to run to get out’.
Teargas is classed as a chemical weapon, and is actually banned from warzones, in line with international agreements.
Yet French gendarmes and police – who have been criticised during the latest law and order crisis for acts of extreme violence against civilians – use it constantly.
In Britain, teargas use is heavily restricted, and never used indiscriminately against large crowds containing men, women and children, as happens in France.
 
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That MP's behaviour was disgusting. If anyone had seen the whole interview she would not let him speak. She was just shouting him down before he even finished valid points. Still she made herself look like a silly little girl in that.
 
meanwhile in france
France prepares 'last resort' chemical weapon that can be smothered around Paris to keep Yellow Vest rioters away from key buildings as anti-Macron protests continue
  • French security forces could smother centre of Paris with debilitating powder
  • Chemical can be spread across area of size of six football pitches in ten seconds
  • Police desperate after five weekends of 'Yellow Vest' rioting around France
  • Paris alone saw 168 arrests with police using water cannon, batons and tear gas
By Peter Allen In Paris for MailOnline
Published: 19:38 AEDT, 17 December 2018 | Updated: 23:42 AEDT, 17 December 2018

comments

French security forces are ready to smother the centre of Paris with a ‘last resort’ chemical weapon in a bid to keep protesters away from key buildings, it has emerged.
Astonishing revelations about the debilitating powder – which can be spread across an area the size of six football pitches in just ten seconds – highlights the increasing desperation of President Emmanuel Macron’s administration as it faces up to a law and order crisis.
The country has been hit by five straight weeks of violence sparked by the Yellow Vests protest movement that has seen national monuments including the Arc de Triomphe ransacked.
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French riot Police disperse demonstrators with tear gas during a protest of the Yellow Vests movement against rising costs of living they blame on high taxes in Paris on Saturday
There were 168 arrests in Paris on Saturday alone as the demonstrators – who are named after their high visibility jackets – fought running battles with police, who responded with water cannon, baton charges and tear gas.
Now senior officers have confirmed that some of the 14 armoured cars deployed by gendarmes contained ‘a radical device that was only to be used as a last resort’ against their own citizens.
A gun-like distributor on the vehicles’ turrets can spray the powder over 430,500 sq. ft. in ten seconds, Marianne magazine reports.
The high-density noxious product contains the same power as 200 tear gas grenades, and is designed to knock people out indiscriminately in an emergency.
A source at the Paris police prefecture said: ‘If a large crowd forced barriers through the security perimeter, then the powder would be used as a last resort in order to stop them.'
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France has been hit by five straight weeks of violence by the Yellow Vests protest movement that has seen national monuments including the Arc de Triomphe ransacked
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There were 168 arrests in Paris on Saturday alone as the demonstrators fought running battles with police, who responded with water cannon, baton charges and tear gas
...
French police attack protestors inside a Burger King during riots
But it is sure to raise concerned questions among civic rights groups, as well as monitoring organisations, including the Hague-based Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, of which France is a member.
Colonel Richard Carminache, of the Gendarmerie, confirmed that the controversial devices had ‘never been used in cities to my knowledge.’
Each distribution would result in ‘a highly concentrated teargas cloud, the equivalent of 200 grenades in one go,’ said Col. Carminache, who added: ‘It’s best to run to get out’.
Teargas is classed as a chemical weapon, and is actually banned from warzones, in line with international agreements.
Yet French gendarmes and police – who have been criticised during the latest law and order crisis for acts of extreme violence against civilians – use it constantly.
In Britain, teargas use is heavily restricted, and never used indiscriminately against large crowds containing men, women and children, as happens in France.


Wonderful country, absolute Utopia...<laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

No doubt Monsieur DT will tell us it's all 'fake news' and the 'Blue Sheep' have been crapping in his back yard again...
 
That MP's behaviour was disgusting. If anyone had seen the whole interview she would not let him speak. She was just shouting him down before he even finished valid points. Still she made herself look like a silly little girl in that.

Agree, but my main criticism would be against Burley who let her do it without intervention. Really unprofessional. Is it a coincidence that she and the Labour MP are both left wing women from northern towns who support Remain
 
That MP's behaviour was disgusting. If anyone had seen the whole interview she would not let him speak. She was just shouting him down before he even finished valid points. Still she made herself look like a silly little girl in that.

Yet another example of the bias against brexit in mainstream TV.
 
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Wonderful country, absolute Utopia...<laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

No doubt Monsieur DT will tell us it's all 'fake news' and the 'Blue Sheep' have been crapping in his back yard again...
You must stop this derogatory posting, you know it upsets le petite chaussette croustillante And I’ve no doubt he will have your name written down in his little blue and yellow starred diary right next to mine in the column marked for execution should The 4th Reich (god forbid) succeed in stopping Brexit and tying us into permanent servitude.
 
You must stop this derogatory posting, you know it upsets le petite chaussette croustillante And I’ve no doubt he will have your name written down in his little blue and yellow starred diary right next to mine in the column marked for execution should The 4th Reich (god forbid) succeed in stopping Brexit and tying us into permanent servitude.

I've been in his 'petit livre noir' for years mate...<laugh>
 
Vote of no confidence upcoming.
But government won't give it time in schedule.

A completely honest question
Is that allowed?

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Vote of no confidence upcoming.
But government won't give it time in schedule.

A completely honest question
Is that allowed?

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Yes. As it's a vote of confidence in Theresa May specifically, and not the Government. A vote of confidence in the Government has to be given time. Essentially clever politics from Labour trying to capitalise on, and exacerbate, Tory divisions, instead of actually trying to bring about a change of Govt.
 
Yes. As it's a vote of confidence in Theresa May specifically, and not the Government. A vote of confidence in the Government has to be given time. Essentially clever politics from Labour trying to capitalise on, and exacerbate, Tory divisions, instead of actually trying to bring about a change of Govt.

Brought by the man who lost an overwhelming vote of no confidence in him by his own party and ignored it, truly a man of impeccable principles...
 
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