When Hull City was in the lower leagues it owned Boothferry Park. When Adam Pearson bought Hull City with his mate it no longer owned Boothferry Park nor was it in the higher leagues.
Things We Think We Think #289
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The Allams.
I don't think they've done too bad for themselves (the shareholders), without owning the ground.
They should and could have done far better though.
The opportunity will be there for someone else to take it on.
Some local people were interested immediately before AP stepped in, I was one of those involved in the discussions.
In fact, similar discussions have taken place again recently (though not involving me, it's way out of my league now), but they're not going anywhere.
...Yet?
This Club will become a burden to that family one day, and I don't think that day is far off.
Next year from now they will not want to own Hull City.
How much money did they have though? In the past a second hand car dealer was often bandied about as a saviour. Those days have gone.
I can only think of the Healeys and the bloke who founded Comet (If he is still around) as locals with the money needed nowadays.
There were numerous rumours that would do the rounds in the 1990s regarding local wealth taking over at City. The most popular was the Healeys and the family that owned Jackson's bidding for the club, organising Brian Marwood to come in as CEO, but being stopped in their tracks when they were told that the deal was for the club only and not the ground. I always viewed it as nonsense (it was, more often than not, a mate of a mate of Brian Marwood recounting the story). Lord White was often wheeled out by the HDM too, as a potential buyer, but that never seemed likely.
When AP bought the club, the Hart brothers had got as close as they'd ever been (according to what AP told us at a HCSS meeting). They were the preferred bidder but couldn't come through with the cash so AP got it for much cheaper than he should. I believe that one of the brothers is behind that rather unusual hotel in Hull that has been making headlines recently. They also gave a very entertaining interview with 442 magazine in which - if I remember rightly - they claimed they were going to get Tony the Tigers as our mascot, set City up as a charity to pay less tax, and had a youth team exchange programme set up with some Brazilian side. I'm assuming they weren't the ones you were involved with, OLM?
When AP bought the club, the Hart brothers had got as close as they'd ever been (according to what AP told us at a HCSS meeting). They were the preferred bidder but couldn't come through with the cash so AP got it for much cheaper than he should. I believe that one of the brothers is behind that rather unusual hotel in Hull that has been making headlines recently. They also gave a very entertaining interview with 442 magazine in which - if I remember rightly - they claimed they were going to get Tony the Tigers as our mascot, set City up as a charity to pay less tax, and had a youth team exchange programme set up with some Brazilian side. I'm assuming they weren't the ones you were involved with, OLM?
pudseytiger
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Tend to agree, i think we've another season of pain and anger with these two pratts, then when the parachute payments stop and it starts to cost them to run the club they will finally keep their promise and be gone in 24hours.
Yes, but AP saw an opportunity with the interest and momentum that a new stadium would bring. He has said that was the reason he bought City. A lot of locals could have done the same but didn't. However they would have done what AP did, sell when we had moved up the leagues, as they wouldn't have had enough cash to go to the next level.
And then they may actually keep one of their promises and give the club away, because they will struggle to sell it at any price.
Agree 100% - once the easy (parachute) money has gone, when they then have to rely on their business acumen, and having a good r'ship with the fans (as if!) they'll not want it. This is when they'll wash their hands of this ''common and irrelevant'' football club.
and 100% this too.
By that stage, there is every chance we will be a L2 club, with crowds as low as they were in the dark days at BP. Less than 5k. Imagine that, rattling around in the KC? Darlo?
It's a distinct possibility. Overly dramatic or pessimistic? I don't think so. In fact, I think it's fast becoming a probability.
We are nailed on relegation this season unless something material changes in the next week. Enob's hopes pinned on goal machine Keane and want away injury prone Hernandez. Mason unlikely to put his life on the line for our cause (can't blame him). Other potential game changers like Growsicki won't care.
Adkins stitched up like a kipper.
10 (?) players out of contract in summer, who increasingly won't care, several if not all of whom will move on. Anyone half decent who remains will want out if we're L1. So a new squad to build again .... without spending any money. Another relegation then awaits us next season.
What a legacy the ****s are going to leave.
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Reading this thread I can't see any hope for the club at all. Dream scenario would be for a group of wealthy people who actually cared about football and would watch as fans got together and then asked Ashbee to also be involved.
The most frustrating thing is that the Allams have owned City for over 7 years now and still haven't the slightest idea how to run a football club.
I suppose it's easier to learn about something if you actually have a genuine interest in the topic.
The problem is Lee they think they are running it well, but they are the only 2 in Hull and beyond who think they are. When they leave they will blame the fans for not supporting them, and will get some personal satisfaction from that, but they will be the only 2 in the whole of the football community that thinks that, everyone else will know the truth.
I am talking about something I have no idea about, but is there anyone anywhere, say in the FA that know about the rules about the mis managing of the parachute payments?
Are we having another protest of some magnitude?
Theres only one place our club is heading at the moment? Anyone got any super rich mates?
Are we having another protest of some magnitude?
Theres only one place our club is heading at the moment? Anyone got any super rich mates?
But they are, from their perspective. They are minimising risk and clawing the shareholders money back. It not just which end of the telescope you look through, but which telescope you use. They have a kaleidoscope and can colour it any way they want.
No, it wasn’t them, Richard’s okay, Charles is a bit dodgy and John’s completely barking.
At the time, we were looking at half a dozen of us putting in a couple of hundred grand each, nothing like the numbers involved today.
There’s plenty of people below the Healeys with enough money to get involved if the inclination took them.
Even then 1.2 million wouldn't have got the club very far, unfortunately, no matter how well intentioned or big supporters they were. I don't know Hull and surrounding area as well as some but can't think of too many below the Healeys with enough money. The Allams of course...