Off Topic Lest We Forget

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It's interesting you mention that because my great-great grandfather (both he and his brother died at Oppy Wood nearly 2 months apart) was a firefighter prior to the war and became a Lance Corporal precisely because of his job.

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I have this book " the Hull Pals". Gives very good understanding of the Hull mens history.during ww1...!00th anniversary of Battle of Ancre tomorrow. Big loss of life from Hull and East Yorkshire that day. Rip your relatives
 
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I have this book " the Hull Pals". Gives very good understanding of the Hull mens history.during ww1...!00th anniversary of Battle of Ancre tomorrow. Big loss of life from Hull and East Yorkshire that day. Rip your relatives

I have the same book. I anyone knows of a relative who served in the Hull Pals, I will see what I can find for them. Just PM me the details.
 
A poem by Tom Walker, who served in the Royal Navy in the 2nd World War.
When greed sups with the devil
And principles are shed
When power is corrupted
And truth stands on its head
When fear pervades the confused mind
And fools are easily led
When reason is a prison
The bell tolls for the dead.
 
I always think that not enough recognition is paid to all those who did not go overseas & lost their lives in conflict but instead those who remained home & lost their lives in the war effort.....the police, firemen, fire watchers, ARP etc...and of course those working in the factories producing the tanks, aircraft, munitions etc.......without them we would never have won the war & the combatant casualties would have been much worse
Agree with this post. The National Memorial Arboretum, just south of Burton upon Trent, a 150 acre site, has many memorials, large, small and in between, as well as all the services has memorials to firemen, police, RNLA, railwaymen, etc., etc.
 
Certainly Hull would look very different.

So would all the cities around Europe which were far more badly damaged. Though they rebuilt the old parts of some cities so that it is impossible to tell, others, like Rotterdam just flattened what was left in the city centre and started again. In this country we didn't do one or the other and ended up with an unco-ordinated mess in a lot of cities.
 
So would all the cities around Europe which were far more badly damaged. Though they rebuilt the old parts of some cities so that it is impossible to tell, others, like Rotterdam just flattened what was left in the city centre and started again. In this country we didn't do one or the other and ended up with an unco-ordinated mess in a lot of cities.

We certainly made a mess of things, but we weren't the worst, Coventry's bloody horrible.
 
We certainly made a mess of things, but we weren't the worst, Coventry's bloody horrible.

I wasn't on about Hull in particular. The point is cities in Germany, Poland, Russia and elsewhere were a lot more badly damaged than any in this country but rebuilt a lot more quickly and in most cases did a better job of it.
 
I wasn't on about Hull in particular. The point is cities in Germany, Poland, Russia and elsewhere were a lot more badly damaged than any in this country but rebuilt a lot more quickly and in most cases did a better job of it.

Im sure I once read that a lot of the aid the USA gave Europe to re build was spent by the UK on the forming of the NHS. Could be wrong.