Off Topic Trumpy pumpy.

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DirtyFrank said:
So predictions:

Internally (USA)

Errosion equal rights, what's left of freedom of the press. freedom of the individual.

Worsening race relations with even heavier handed law enforcement in minority areas.

Globally

Well I think Environmental Protection is dead. Trump is a denier and Russia and China will jump on it.

Assad will have his state reinstated by a combined Russian/US support.

US war with Iran..nuclear agreement will be torn up, they'll react and Trump will react...might not be long enough for this to happen over 4 years but..I predict an Iran takeover of Iraq. will Trump accept this as stability in the region being forced from within or will he react?

Step up in Russian imperialism in Eastern Europe. while I think Trump will give voice to continued support to NATO now he'll not give enough to allow any substantial reaction to Russian movement in this area.

Trade protectionism particular with China (the Mexico thing is mweh with regards to global security).

Instability in the south China Sea area..China can't afford a trade war...they'll become increasingly imperialist in this area...Will Trump really leave Japan, South Korea and Taiwan to deal with themselves? Either way...increased chance of a hot war in area eventually. China will also become more aggressive in expanding its sphere of influence on the African continent.

Bounce back economic downturn globally and in the US if Trump puts through his economic plans. only manufacturing jobs he'll be able to create are military ...so he'll need a couple of wars to justify that...deficit will become a joke word.

While I'm not quite thinking domino effect. both this and Brexit might energise far right in Germany, France, Poland etc...


Yay! welcome to the 1930's
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We might be over-estimating the power of the Prez here. I think others will be influencing the real decisions on NATO and active defence policies.
However, I agree that environmental protection is now in deep ****, because none of the powerful vested interests give a toss about the environment anyway if it stands in the way of profit. So Trump has a few ways in which to engineer the end of the world.
Eliot may turn out to be right "This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang, but a whimper."
 
saintKlopp said:
We might be over-estimating the power of the Prez here. I think others will be influencing the real decisions on NATO and active defence policies.
However, I agree that environmental protection is now in deep ****, because none of the powerful vested interests give a toss about the environment anyway if it stands in the way of profit. So Trump has a few ways in which to engineer the end of the world.
Eliot may turn out to be right "This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang, but a whimper."
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no i think we need to not underestimate the depth of the appointments about to be made. The literally 100s of hawks that were booted out with bush could all be back.

It wasn't bush par se but he did have his daddys ware to complete. no it was cheney, rumsfield and all the rest that drove it.

rememebr that they managed to drive a huge deficit and blow up the us economy and ended up in 2008 with disaster.

Those others come in with trump and are appointed to keep the influencer sweet..

I agree on the climate stuff. I think you all need to stock up cos oil will double in price shortly as it suits them all to do this.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
no i think we need to not underestimate the depth of the appointments about to be made. The literally 100s of hawks that were booted out with bush could all be back.

It wasn't bush par se but he did have his daddys ware to complete. no it was cheney, rumsfield and all the rest that drove it.

rememebr that they managed to drive a huge deficit and blow up the us economy and ended up in 2008 with disaster.

Those others come in with trump and are appointed to keep the influencer sweet..

I agree on the climate stuff. I think you all need to stock up cos oil will double in price shortly as it suits them all to do this.
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We'll see.
Anyways - the end of the world just as we were dead certs to win the PL. It's a ****in conspiracy I tell yez.
 
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Where's Hilary anyway? Not impressed with this. Has she fainted again? On sedatives? Was Donald right about her dodgy constitution? She sent her supporters home rather than speak to them. Thank God she never had to deal with a real, real crisis.
 
Politicians are to blame for these **** shows in the US and UK

When they behave as morally bankrupt corrupt millionaires, they close the gap to electing a morally bankrupt corrupt billionaire
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
true. the democrats really only have themselves to blame for it.

the reality is after 8 years of obama and the red houses the minorites got faff all and didn't turn out.
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He wasted his first two years in office when the Democrats had control of both houses - after that he couldn't deliver.
 
Trump's election represents a "hostile takeover" of the White House, upending the political order with a new brand of politics that doesn't neatly fit into the existing bipartisan framework, said Curt Nichols, a political science professor at Baylor University who has studied how presidential elections affect the reordering of American politics.
Judging from his whirlwind campaigning of the past few weeks, no one was more aware of Trump's threat to his legacy than Obama himself. He recited a litany of accomplishments — from the auto industry rescue to the Affordable Care Act to the Paris climate accords.
"All the progress we’ve made goes out the window if we don’t win this election," he said in stump speeches in Ohio, North Carolina and Florida — states Trump won by appealing to largely voters disaffected by the economic disruption of the last decade. "Let's go finish what we started."
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/usele...ama-legacy/ar-AAk4Z0N?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=1PRCMSE
 
Jigsawklopp said:
Trump's election represents a "hostile takeover" of the White House, upending the political order with a new brand of politics that doesn't neatly fit into the existing bipartisan framework, said Curt Nichols, a political science professor at Baylor University who has studied how presidential elections affect the reordering of American politics.
Judging from his whirlwind campaigning of the past few weeks, no one was more aware of Trump's threat to his legacy than Obama himself. He recited a litany of accomplishments — from the auto industry rescue to the Affordable Care Act to the Paris climate accords.
"All the progress we’ve made goes out the window if we don’t win this election," he said in stump speeches in Ohio, North Carolina and Florida — states Trump won by appealing to largely voters disaffected by the economic disruption of the last decade. "Let's go finish what we started."
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/usele...ama-legacy/ar-AAk4Z0N?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=1PRCMSE
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And don't forget that Obama, like Brown, spent the beginning of his term bailing out the ****ing banks as well.
 
you seriously refferring to the poles that had Clinton massively ahead. Not sure i would trust that **** ... ever
 
BobbyD said:
you seriously refferring to the poles that had Clinton massively ahead. Not sure i would trust that **** ... ever
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They wouldn't openly admit voting for such a disgusting creature but would happily do it in a [HASHTAG]#secretballot[/HASHTAG]
 
RedLadSonofAnfield said:
Very similar statistics to Brexit, near identical in the breakdown actually

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I spotted a few interesting points and a few yank only points

The key one for me is (and i do believe people over there told the truth exiting poll booth)

income 50k to 99.99k trump wins. thats is the squeeze middle right there. people who are probably feeling pinch consistently since 2008 and continue to do so and are sick of it.

after that point as the wages go up there is a sliver between them

and urban rural divide.. small town america stood up and said nobody is listening to us. you democrats are not so....

The fact is then the rest where race comes into it it gets very yankland specific. education by race for example.

Overall I think these align generall yacross here.

not so much rural areas but as forgotten towns outside london where jobs have gone and rot is rife. people stood up here and said I think anything for change.

I truly however believe many yanks sounded awful when challenged as all they could say to give voice to their anger was to parrot trump statements which were all 3 word sound bites. The people who said locker talk for example sounded awful but 55mil people or whatever have not said groping is ok. they have said this is a non issue in this race. the establishment and clinton are not for us any more end of.

the same happened here. you got a few racist idiots in there shouting go home immigrants while farage chortled with glee but most were voting for more jobs, more choice, that thier lives would return to some halcian days

The sad reality is all these people will just be let down. At some point they will realise the system is so rigged that changing a face is only change which special interests get favour not them.
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
The sad reality is all these people will just be let down. At some point they will realise the system is so rigged that changing a face is only change which special interests get favour not them.
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That's the key point, whoever gets in the White House is only a face, a symbolic figurehead and occasional mouthpiece. The public misconception amongst a lot of the electorate is that the President is in control and has finality in policy and decision making when the reality is it's the faceless people behind the scenes, behind the Presidency, behind business and corporations and ultimately behind government that hold the real totality of power, the President is just the principle body on the ground doing political and diplomatic legwork
 
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Frankly unless Trump does something amazing whilst in power, it should only be 1 term. All the Democrats have to do is put up a credible candidate, if they had run pretty much anyone else than Hilary they would have won this election months ago, she's just too disliked because of who she is. Its a huge shame as she could have been a stable, consistent President, unlike Trump.

There are a few European countries going to elections next year, France and Germany being the big ones, there could be a swell in Right wing politics, this is very disturbing.
 
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