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<laugh> You are right, you have bored most if not all people. Now go and Google your next topic, so you can come back on here to make yourself look daft - again. You really shouldn't post when drunk, there are a number of shoddy typos creeping into your posts. No doubt whilst your clumsy, fat fingers smash away at the key board in anger at being wrong again. You know no shame, clinging onto words other posters make in a vain attempt to validate your incoherent ramblings. Reverse due diligence <laugh> Google is your friend.

This post is nonsense, your position and knowledge has been foolish and uninformed, whilst your endless insults define you. You are what you are, for all to see. <ok>
 
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This post is nonsense, your position and knowledge has been foolish and uninformed, whilst your endless insults define you. You are what you are, for all to see. <ok>

That's what happens when all the knowledge comes from FIFA manager 8000.
 
Again, this is what i said:

"The Due Diligence for the first wil be pretty much mirrored by any subsequent ones, so time is saved by prior preparation; how much is dufficult to say, but quite a bit."

Any two acts of Due Diligence will be very similar. If the second buyer accepts an acreddited third-pary's asset audit then that, in itself, is a big time and resource saving. Of course it depends on the business, which id why I qualified it with "how much is dufficult to say, but quite a bit". I don't think that is unreasonable. At least my detractors now seem to be accepting it is possible and only arguing the level - something that is dependent on a number of variables.

But you have now changed tack; you tried to ridicule my post because you only looked at it from the buyers perspeçtive and that was wrong. FACT as you like to say.

It was a simple, innocuous comment that I made in innocent discussion and you decided to be an authority and GLP reverted to charactor.

I ridiculed nothing, I just said they'd do their own due diligence. Precious ****er.
 
I would think that the due diligence would be carried out by the prospective buyer's accountants and lawyers. If 2 buyers used the same set of accountants and or lawyers then I would guess some saving of time might me made. However, it is highly unlikely that they would use the same, so it would probably take the same time.

I see where you are coming from, John, but it is not where I am suggesting some time can be saved.

For instance, let's say Allam had decided he was going to sell his business and he wished for a swift closure of a deal (sic).

Let us presume that as a highly experienced businessman he broadly knew what questions would come at him in any prospective buyers Due Diligence.

Lets make this a tad simpler than it often is, but lets assume he would expect questions on two general fronts: Accounts and Assets (they will eventually merge, we know that.).

He will make sure his accountants are prepared to issue the answers to questions on P&L, etc.

But he also knows that he has properties and that those properties house quite a bit of equipment (assets) and he knows it is usual for an audit of those assets to be required.

To audit those assets would mean a team from each seperate buyer tying up his staff for some considerable period, this multiplied by the number of prospective buyers. Anyone who has experienced this would know that if the company has not kept robust records (many do not) this can be very detrimental to day-to-day business.

Or he could appoint a fully accredited, independent auditor (for arguments sake, Price Waterhouse Cooper - they might tackle this type of thing, it's a random guess) and offer that to each buyer as the basis for their assements. I think most clued up businesses would accept that, simply questioning any elements they are unclear about. It is this that can make any subsequent Due Diligence shorter in duration, if the independent audit was triggered by the first enquiry and not pre-prepared (as they have a time limitation).

I have never come across two buyers sharing accountants and/or solicitors and I believe there would be a conflict of interest in doing so.
 
I ridiculed nothing, I just said they'd do their own due diligence. Precious ****er.

You said it in a sarcastic manner and your comment was poorly judged at best. If being precious is pointing out you talk ****e at times then so be it.
 
I see where you are coming from, John, but it is not where I am suggesting some time can be saved.

For instance, let's say Allam had decided he was going to sell his business and he wished for a swift closure of a deal (sic).

Let us presume that as a highly experienced businessman he broadly knew what questions would come at him in any prospective buyers Due Diligence.

Lets make this a tad simpler than it often is, but lets assume he would expect questions on two general fronts: Accounts and Assets (they will eventually merge, we know that.).

He will make sure his accountants are prepared to issue the answers to questions on P&L, etc.

But he also knows that he has properties and that those properties house quite a bit of equipment (assets) and he knows it is usual for an audit of those assets to be required.

To audit those assets would mean a team from each seperate buyer tying up his staff for some considerable period, this multiplied by the number of prospective buyers. Anyone who has experienced this would know that if the company has not kept robust records (many do not) this can be very detrimental to day-to-day business.

Or he could appoint a fully accredited, independent auditor (for arguments sake, Price Waterhouse Cooper - they might tackle this type of thing, it's a random guess) and offer that to each buyer as the basis for their assements. I think most clued up businesses would accept that, simply questioning any elements they are unclear about. It is this that can make any subsequent Due Diligence shorter in duration, if the independent audit was triggered by the first enquiry and not pre-prepared (as they have a time limitation).

I have never come across two buyers sharing accountants and/or solicitors and I believe there would be a conflict of interest in doing so.

I hear what you say, I guess at the end of the day it depends on how in-depth the buy requires the due diligence to be. I seem to remember the Allam's can't have done their due diligence very carefully. If I remember correctly they found out after they took over the SMC that Barlett had taken out a mortgage on the lease which they ended up having to pay off.
 
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This post is nonsense, your position and knowledge has been foolish and uninformed, whilst your endless insults define you. You are what you are, for all to see. <ok>

You're a moron. Perhaps try alternative sources for your information other than Google. <doh>
 
I hear what you say, I guess at the end of the day it depends on how in-depth the buy requires the due diligence to be. I seem to remember the Allam's can't have done their due diligence very carefully. If I remember correctly they found out after they took over the SMC that Barlett had taken out a mortgage on the lease which they ended up having to pay off.

Bartlett didn't take a mortgage on the lease as he wasn't allowed to by the terms of the lease. He took out a loan secured on all the other assets of the SMC. In practice it meant Bartlett was restricted in the amount he could borrow.
 
I hear what you say, I guess at the end of the day it depends on how in-depth the buy requires the due diligence to be. I seem to remember the Allam's can't have done their due diligence very carefully. If I remember correctly they found out after they took over the SMC that Barlett had taken out a mortgage on the lease which they ended up having to pay off.

Your memory is the same as mine, John; Due Diligence was not a strong point of their purchase.

Edit: Was it tax that was overlooked?