Off Topic Conspiracy Thread

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I wasn't criticising the Sovirt Union you thick bastard. I was pointing out that you and other deluded conspiracy theorists think that the fact the US denied the existence of Area51 somehow proved there had been alien landings meant there must have been dozens in the Soviet Union as they had lots of places that they didn't admit the existence of. Of course it could just be that countries of differing political views all keep the existence ofmilitary installations secret, some more than others. Which wouldn't enter the febrile minds of the believers where everything is a conspiracy to keep the presence of aliens from everyone.

No, no I didn't. Nowhere did I say the US government denying Area 51's existence proved alien landings. On this entire thread, the only conspiracy theory I've admitted to believing is the theory the Saudi royal family were somewhat involved in the attack on the WTC.

You really are just a tedious, senile, silly old ****.
 
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No, no I didn't. Nowhere did I say the US government denying Area 51's existence proved alien landings. On this entire thread, the only conspiracy theory I've admitted to believing is the theory the Saudi royal family were somewhat involved in the attack on the WTC.

You really are just a tedious, senile, silly old ****.

One of your conspiracy theory oppos you mutually agree with did.

Maybe some truth in Saudi involvement. 9/11 wasn't a US organised thing, it was just fortuitous for Bush as he could use it as justification for an attack on someone else who he was wanting to target.
 
I wasn't criticising the Sovirt Union you thick bastard. I was pointing out that you and other deluded conspiracy theorists think that the fact the US denied the existence of Area51 somehow proved there had been alien landings meant there must have been dozens in the Soviet Union as they had lots of places that they didn't admit the existence of. Of course it could just be that countries of differing political views all keep the existence ofmilitary installations secret, some more than others. Which wouldn't enter the febrile minds of the believers where everything is a conspiracy to keep the presence of aliens from everyone.

Do they think that? Proof of denial isn't proof of existence. What it does do is draw attention to the fact that they lied to people. There are numerous settlements around Groom Lake dry bed, they will have known, so how long were they going to deny it was there for? Why even bother lying? Besides, there have never been any aliens at Area 51.
 
So, who killed...

Dr David Kelly
Robert Maxwell
Karen Silkwood
Hilda Murrell

??

Shape shifting aliens. They are a murderous set of bastards those aliens. Life, but not as we know it.

Re Robert Maxwell. They were trying to establish his state of mind and asked a crew member how he appeared to be when he last spoke to him. "He seemed pretty buoyant" was his reply.
 
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Do they think that? Proof of denial isn't proof of existence. What it does do is draw attention to the fact that they lied to people. There are numerous settlements around Groom Lake dry bed, they will have known, so how long were they going to deny it was there for? Why even bother lying? Besides, there have never been any aliens at Area 51.

How do you know there hasn't? They are everywhere those aliens.
 
Ignoring your incredibly facetious tone, it wouldn't make sense to keep them there. Anything to do with extra terrestrials/extra dimensionals happens at S4.

Does it? And you know this how? Are we assuming there are actually any extra terrestrials and extra dimensional they have encountered that they deal with there? How have the many people involved been stopped from ever offering proof.
As I said before, ever considered these places are secretive because they are to do with defence andthe military as sites were all over the USSR. Were they appealing with aliens. Is that why military sites all around the world do likewise?
 
Shape shifting aliens. They are a murderous set of bastards those aliens. Life, but not as we know it.

Re Robert Maxwell. They were trying to establish his state of mind and asked a crew member how he appeared to be when he last spoke to him. "He seemed pretty buoyant" was his reply.

See, this is the problem with people who just dismiss anything conspiracy related with a wave of the hand: they don't actually look into anything as they've already decided it's bull.

If you, and Shoes, would take the time to actually have a look into things or watch some of the clips I posted then I'd say fair do's and respect anything you say. But as you're not doing that and just tarring everyone with the same brush, then your words don't really count. It's just mocking. I know there are some ridiculous theories out there. But some are not as outlandish.

What I don't understand is why, for example, you can't look into the Karen Silkwood case for ten mins and see what you think?

What are you afraid of?
 
Does it? And you know this how? Are we assuming there are actually any extra terrestrials and extra dimensional they have encountered that they deal with there? How have the many people involved been stopped from ever offering proof.
As I said before, ever considered these places are secretive because they are to do with defence andthe military as sites were all over the USSR. Were they appealing with aliens. Is that why military sites all around the world do likewise?

<laugh> which would be great were it not for this crazy invention called a satellite. Area 51 isn't cloaked, nor is it hidden away like S4 is, I've climbed the ridge behind it, you can see into it with binoculars.(although they've closed it off now)

A lot of people have tried providing proof, they either get called foolish by people like yourself, or they end up dead.

Funnily enough, the former defence minister of Canada and Buzz Aldrin (the former under oath) have both confirmed the existence of extra terrestrials. Two very credible people who have very, very good reputations. But what they say sounds a bit spooky so it's obviously bullshit. It's the worst logic imaginable, yet it's the one everybody applies to things that they don't really want to talk about. It probably scares them a little. So. Good, be scared.
 
<laugh> which would be great were it not for this crazy invention called a satellite. Area 51 isn't cloaked, nor is it hidden away like S4 is, I've climbed the ridge behind it, you can see into it with binoculars.(although they've closed it off now)

A lot of people have tried providing proof, they either get called foolish by people like yourself, or they end up dead.

Funnily enough, the former defence minister of Canada and Buzz Aldrin (the former under oath) have both confirmed the existence of extra terrestrials. Two very credible people who have very, very good reputations. But what they say sounds a bit spooky so it's obviously bullshit. It's the worst logic imaginable, yet it's the one everybody applies to things that they don't really want to talk about. It probably scares them a little. So. Good, be scared.

The conspiracy theories concerning that place at the time of the Roswell incident which was when the Cold War was starting in earnest, which was before there were satellites capable of looking in there. You certainly wouldn't have got as close to one in the USSR, modern day Russia, China or many other places.. But that doesn't mean they have anything to do with aliens. They are military bases and authorities don't tend to let you wander around them.
Have the people you mention met any or even seen any extra terrestrials? Taken photos of them ? Or did Aldrin say he had seen unexplained lights or something similar?
 
See, this is the problem with people who just dismiss anything conspiracy related with a wave of the hand: they don't actually look into anything as they've already decided it's bull.

If you, and Shoes, would take the time to actually have a look into things or watch some of the clips I posted then I'd say fair do's and respect anything you say. But as you're not doing that and just tarring everyone with the same brush, then your words don't really count. It's just mocking. I know there are some ridiculous theories out there. But some are not as outlandish.

What I don't understand is why, for example, you can't look into the Karen Silkwood case for ten mins and see what you think?

What are you afraid of?

I'm afraid of the dark and nasty creepie crawlies..
 
Great stuff there.

So what about the rest of my post?

You mean the lady who died in a car crash? Who had traces if plutonium in her system, which was unsurprising as she worked in a nuclear facility.
Been a number of people killed in this country and Russia by plutonium. And car accidents and suicides. All enemies of Putin. Any mention of conspiracies dismissed by people who believe aliens have for millennia been communicating with various civilisations and more recently providing new technology to "world leaders".
Seems he only conspiracies some believe involve the USand the UK.
 
You mean the lady who died in a car crash? Who had traces if plutonium in her system, which was unsurprising as she worked in a nuclear facility.
Been a number of people killed in this country and Russia by plutonium. And car accidents and suicides. All enemies of Putin. Any mention of conspiracies dismissed by people who believe aliens have for millennia been communicating with various civilisations and more recently providing new technology to "world leaders".
Seems he only conspiracies some believe involve the USand the UK.

There is a conspiracy that Putin is the wealthiest person on the planet as he has effectively embezzled hundreds of billions from the Russian treasury during his time as President and Prime Minister.
 
There is a conspiracy that Putin is the wealthiest person on the planet as he has effectively embezzled hundreds of billions from the Russian treasury during his time as President and Prime Minister.

That isn't a conspiracy. It isn't a theory either. It is a fact. Someone not in the SMS said so.
 
You mean the lady who died in a car crash? Who had traces if plutonium in her system, which was unsurprising as she worked in a nuclear facility.
Been a number of people killed in this country and Russia by plutonium. And car accidents and suicides. All enemies of Putin. Any mention of conspiracies dismissed by people who believe aliens have for millennia been communicating with various civilisations and more recently providing new technology to "world leaders".
Seems he only conspiracies some believe involve the USand the UK.

Good stuff. Glad you're looking into things now :)
 
Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
Project MK-ULTA
Operation Paperclip
The Nayirah testimony
Hillsborough
Prohibition (poisoning alcohol)
Operation Northwoods
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident
CIA drug trafficking
Operation Mockingbird
COINTELPRO
Operation Snow White
TPP, TISA, etc.
The Iran-Contra Affair
BCCI
Operation Ajax
Operation Gladio
CIA Assassinations - Church Committee
HSCA 2nd investigation into Kennedy -1979.
Bohemian Grove






 
Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
Project MK-ULTA
Operation Paperclip
The Nayirah testimony
Hillsborough
Prohibition (poisoning alcohol)
Operation Northwoods
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident
CIA drug trafficking
Operation Mockingbird
COINTELPRO
Operation Snow White
TPP, TISA, etc.
The Iran-Contra Affair
BCCI
Operation Ajax
Operation Gladio
CIA Assassinations - Church Committee
HSCA 2nd investigation into Kennedy -1979.
Bohemian Grove






Are conspiracies confined to the West?