Off Topic Conspiracy Thread

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A bit like you marching in and telling everyone they are simpletons who don't get the full picture? BTW I didn't say you personally were at primary school when it happened. You really must learn how to read and inwardly digest what is written.
By research do you mean you have read something and decided that is what happened, no matter how ludicrous the claims? How anyone can take some of the people on that programme last night seriously is beyond comprehension. For some reason the programme makers gave them an easy ride instead of pointing out what hogwash they were coming out with.
The teaching thing was a bit lighthearted. I don't mean to cast aspersions on your professionalism. The biggest compliment I could pay to one of my teachers was that in the 1960s. a time when revolution was in the air and you were virtually compelled to try and bring about societal change and the downfall of everything your parents held dear, was that only in later years did I find he was as left wing as you could be. To me he was, as a grammar school teacher, a reactionary member of the establishment. Full marks to him for never letting his feelings or views show.
Unlike one of my sons teachers in the 1980s. He informed them during a geography lesson that the Berlin Wall wasn't necessarily there to keep people in but was there to keep undesirables out. I informed him in the pub that all you had to do to get in to the GDR was pay 35 Deutsche Marks and across you went. A good con as once there no one would accept the East German Marks they were converted to, all they wanted was foreign currency, especially pounds and dollars, to use on the black market and any remaining notes were taken off you (you had to account for any you had spent) and taken off you by grinning guards to disappear to heaven knows where. He argued, but as luck would have it someone was stood nearby and heard this. They had been doing some building work in West Berlin and confirmed what I had said.I said I would give him a pound for every person who had been shot trying to get in over the Wall if he would give me a pound for everyone shot trying to get out over it. And to stop telling my son daft things like he had done as well as saying that .East Germany was just like West Germany, the only difference being the government.Not the way for a teacher to conduct himself, as I am sure you would agree.

In summary, East Germany was better than West Germany? That's the most words to mention the worst conspiracy theory posted on this thread so far. <ok>
 
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In summary, East Germany was better than West Germany? That's the most words to mention the worst conspiracy theory posted on this thread so far. <ok>

He seemed to think so. Despite not having been there. Jack Jones once said he felt at home there. Though he didn't decide to go and live there to enjoy its delights. Guess there weren't many well paid jobs as Union leaders there. Not much point for them as strikes were banned.
 
Read it again and you will see I didn't say everyone who had a different view to me was a loony. Certainly they are wrong, misguided or misinformed if they have a different view to me but not necessarily a loony. I said what if the only opposing views were from loonies who weren't there when it happened yet profess to have seen things more accurately than those who were.
In my case I look at the evidence and choose what my views are on that.for instance until recently I believed the apollo spacecraft would have fried the astronauts with radiation if they had gone through van Haylens belt but now I understand that the radiation was a bombardment of proteins or something similar and nasa managed to plot their way through.i still have a problem with the photos and the luner landing though.
 
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In my case I look at the evidence and choose what my views are on that.for instance until recently I believed the apollo spacecraft would have fried the astronauts with radiation if they had gone through van Haylens belt but now I understand that the radiation was a bombardment of proteins or something similar and nasa managed to plot their way through.i still have a problem with the photos and the luner landing though.

Doesn't this prove that you don't do a very good job of looking at the evidence?
 
You win the award for not realising when anyone is having a joke. Unlike some who believe that anyone not agreeing with their outlandish conspiracy theories are not as well informed as them. Especially one who were at primary school at the time of 9/11 but think they are enter informed about structural engineering than people who have a background in these things.

Frightening to think people who believe some of this rubbish have the vote. Even more frightening, some of them are teaching young, impressionable minds.

If old people who will be dead soon can have the vote, people who believe in conspiracy theories can as well.
 
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A bit ****ing ****ty this.

Why is it? I was talking to my dad about the impacts global warming might have in 50 years time and he turned around and said 'well, I'll be dead in 50 years so it's none of my business'. The point of my post was that if people who don't have many years left can vote for short-term self-interest then people who believe in wild conspiracy theories ought to be able to vote as well.
 
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A bit ****ing ****ty this.

Anyone can be dead soon. Can think of half a dozen fellow City supporters who have died in last 3 or 4 years, a smashing lass who was a leading light in running the local pub football team and a number of ex work colleagues all of who were younger than me, up to 10 years in most cases. The most recent one whose death was a blessing as he had dementia from his late 40s and passed away in his mid fifties.
Just the sort of stupid remark he would come out with. Similar to a poster on CI, who has disappeared recently, who thinks anyone over 65 should have their pensions stopped and be shifted off to old folks homes and their houses and possessions divided up amongst the deserving younger ones. Except for his dad whose very large pension would be exempt no doubt.
 
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Why is it? I was talking to my dad about the impacts global warming might have in 50 years time and he turned around and said 'well, I'll be dead in 50 years so it's none of my business'. The point of my post was that if people who don't have many years left can vote for short-term self-interest then people who believe in wild conspiracy theories ought to be able to vote as well.

Nothing to stop them voting. Though technically they should be disqualified under the no peers, criminals or lunatics being allowed allowed to vote rule.
 
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Arf


Voting when you have no investment in outcomes is not the same as voting when you have no clue and are borderline dangerous in your delusions.
 
Arf


Voting when you have no investment in outcomes is not the same as voting when you have no clue and are borderline dangerous in your delusions.

So, certain old people who are senile and have bigoted delusions shouldn't be allowed to vote?
 
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Anyone can be dead soon. Can think of half a dozen fellow City supporters who have died in last 3 or 4 years, a smashing lass who was a leading light in running the local pub football team and a number of ex work colleagues all of who were younger than me, up to 10 years in most cases. The most recent one whose death was a blessing as he had dementia from his late 40s and passed away in his mid fifties.
Just the sort of stupid remark he would come out with. Similar to a poster on CI, who has disappeared recently, who thinks anyone over 65 should have their pensions stopped and be shifted off to old folks homes and their houses and possessions divided up amongst the deserving younger ones. Except for his dad whose very large pension would be exempt no doubt.

You're the one suggesting certain people should be disenfranchised from voting, not me.
 
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That wasn't your analogy. Shifting the goalposts after an argument is schoolboy logic.

Come on...

Castro was the one who said he was 'frightened' that people who believe conspiracy theories can vote. My analogy was that if old people can vote on the future of younger generations, even if they won't witness or suffer the consequences, then people who believe in bizarre conspiracy theories can vote.

A significant minority of people in this country hate immigrants, for no logical reason. They can still vote and their voting habits are definitely more dangerous than those people who believe the CIA might have had something to do with the attacks on the WTC.

I don't believe old people should be disenfranchised from voting.
 
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Not matter hope long you persist in repeating yourself, the argument was illogical and still is!

Keep modifying it, though, you may get there.
 
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Not matter hope long you persist in repeating yourself, the argument was illogical and still is!

Keep modifying it, thought, you may get there.

Why was it illogical? I didn't actually say anyone should be disqualified from voting, that was Castro.
 
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