Brook not disgraced against a real champ in Golovkin. Eubank Jnr more disgraced with ill judged comments on Twitter after fight particularly as it appears he dodged GGG. He should also remember the aftermath of the Blackwell fight. Dickhead. No shame in throwing in the towel when well beaten and live to fight another day.
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Absolutely. Eubanks are looking the biggest jokes in the sport with recent events, last night's tweet probably the worst. What was the moronic booing about from the crowd at the O2 last night as well. Sadly too many pissed up pricks at it. The towel going in was the best thing of the night, Brook wasn't firing back and GGGs fists of stone were going to inflict serious damage sooner or later. As you say look how the Blackwell fight ended.
He lives to fight another day and if anything last night probably put him up in my estimation.
Been on a small break on the Gold Coast and have just had my first look at the Golovkin - Brook fight. This is going to sound silly, but Brook did really well for a bloke who copped a flogging. It wasn't the best thing to try and match blows in the centre of the ring, but at least he had a crack. I enjoyed seeing Golovkin acknowledging the flurries of Brook during the bout. Respect.
Just watched it for the first time. For someone I didn't give a hope in hell, he did very, very well. Glad it was stopped for his sake but I wonder how it would have gone had he not had the eye injury. He made Golovkin look clumsy at times. I think the problem with fighting against Golovkin is that he never looks to get hurt despite the number of times he gets caught. Therefore he can afford to continuously go on the offensive. Must be quite demoralising Reminds me of a mini Marciano
The only disappointment with the fight was the early end. It was action packed for 4 rounds and I'd have been interested to see how Golovkin and Brook would have fared in later rounds at that pace. Golovkins heavy shots could have worn Brook down but I also think he was feeling the pace way more than he will ever let on and his face didn't look like the shots 'didn't hurt'.
Both have reputation in tact and Hearn will have no problem selling tickets for either fighter in the UK in the future.
I don't care what Golovkin said he felt some of them shots. The early stoppage due to the injury was unfortunate but its not like the injury was accidental, GGG caused it by repeatedly hitting brook in the face. Nothing worse than a good fight being ruined by accidental head clash or something like that. I was very impressed with Brooks chin and would have been interested to see how his stamina held up aswell had the fight gone on.
I think he was in a lot of trouble Smoke. Brook himself said that he told Ingle that he couldn't see out of his right eye at the end of the second. And speaking of Ingle, he stated. "He’s like a father figure. It was the right decision and I can fight another day. I was getting caught, and getting caught. It could have ended up seriously bad.”
I see there's now chat about Brook fighting Canelo. Of course Hearn is talking it up, it's all business to him, but for Brook's sake, I hope it never happens.
I see there's now chat about Brook fighting Canelo. Of course Hearn is talking it up, it's all business to him, but for Brook's sake, I hope it never happens.
I agree with the stoppage Cyc, Brook was really hurt. I'd like to see Brook/Canelo, i don't really rate Alvarez, he's slow and easy to hit and i actually think Liam Smith has a cracking chance against him this weekend
With all due respect my fine friend, I'll have to disagree with you on the chances of Liam this weekend. I think he'll be torn apart. I do wish him all the best though. I don't suppose it'll be the last time we end up in different corners Smoke. 
Fighting Canelo at 154 (Light Middleweight) would be interesting Cyc. There's a gut feeling amongst some of the pundits that Canelo is naturally a 154 fighter and not a middleweight (hence not fighting Golovkin) so Brook going up 7lb this time instead of 13lb is better for him and probably his ideal weight if he says he was struggling to make 147 the last couple of years. I know Canelo does come into the ring much heavier once rehydrated and that he splattered Khan, but that knock out is more about Amir Khan being the ****test defensive boxer modern history more than Canelo being a one punch KO artist. Khan gets himself into all sorts of horrible positions and more worryingly can't see shots coming, so all his knockdowns look pretty spectacular and remember even Julio Diaz, an ex lightweight managed to knock him down a couple of times in between him getting smashed up by Prescott, Garcia and Canelo.
As Brook doesn't rush his combos and confuse himself, he is far less likely to take a straight right over the top than Khan and also has a much more intelligent jab. Whether he has the power to back Canelo up as the fight wears on we won't know until fight night, and where Mayweather was brilliant was that he could still not get hit when he was on the ropes with Canelo marauding forward.
I think Brook Canelo at 154 is a good fight for everyone.
However, he's got to decide his weight at the end of the day. It will be tricky to go back down two divisions so maybe we will see a 154 bout, though I assume he then must vacate his welterweight title?
Think it's worth bearing in mind there were strong rumours GGG was a bit under the weather before the fight, the fact he arrived in a new country only on the Sunday certainly makes this very possible. I know when I go on holidays someone would often pick up a minor head cold etc before acclimatising. The way he fought adds credence to this theory, specifically how after Round 2 he just poured it on, looking ultra aggressive and to finish the fight, perhaps knowing his stamina would be suspect after a few days under the weather. Just a theory, takes nothing away from Brooks performance mind you. He done well.
One bug bear I'd have is the scoring, I've seen 2 judges had Brook winning the first round... I've watched the fight three times and no way can you give it to Brook. He was dam nearly on his arse in the first 90 seconds FFS. Definitely adds weight to the common thinking that sneaky Eddie supplies everything for these fights including the refs
Liam Smith has a squeak against Canelo. A small chance but he's definitely not the worse 6 or 7/1 shot ever.
One bug bear I'd have is the scoring, I've seen 2 judges had Brook winning the first round... I've watched the fight three times and no way can you give it to Brook. He was dam nearly on his arse in the first 90 seconds FFS. Definitely adds weight to the common thinking that sneaky Eddie supplies everything for these fights including the refs
Liam Smith has a squeak against Canelo. A small chance but he's definitely not the worse 6 or 7/1 shot ever.
Think it's worth bearing in mind there were strong rumours GGG was a bit under the weather before the fight, the fact he arrived in a new country only on the Sunday certainly makes this very possible. I know when I go on holidays someone would often pick up a minor head cold etc before acclimatising. The way he fought adds credence to this theory, specifically how after Round 2 he just poured it on, looking ultra aggressive and to finish the fight, perhaps knowing his stamina would be suspect after a few days under the weather. Just a theory, takes nothing away from Brooks performance mind you. He done well.
One bug bear I'd have is the scoring, I've seen 2 judges had Brook winning the first round... I've watched the fight three times and no way can you give it to Brook. He was dam nearly on his arse in the first 90 seconds FFS. Definitely adds weight to the common thinking that sneaky Eddie supplies everything for these fights including the refs
Liam Smith has a squeak against Canelo. A small chance but he's definitely not the worse 6 or 7/1 shot ever.
Haha Beefy, you really aren't too keen on the bloke are you? i met him a few years ago and had the chance to talk with him for a good while and it really changed my opinion of him because his 'public persona' at times can really grate on you.
No way Brook won the first, my arse fell out the first time GGG hit him, he looked like he was done for. Do you think there might have been a bit of the 'oh, he's actually done better than we expected, we'll give him that one' sort of thing going on.
I must admit that I was a bit surprised to find Brook was sort of in front on points when the fight was stopped. (Actually a draw.)
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The clip below is a peek at the Smith - Alvarez fight lead up. Just looking at it, I get the impression that Smith might just have the faster hands, but Canelo the slight edge in power.
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He's too smug of himself for my liking plus anyone who has brainwashed as many casuals as he has into actually believing that Anthony Joshua is the reincarnation of Ali/Tyson/Marciano etc needs put on some form of register.
In fairness, he's not actually that bad, he's growing on me a bit TBH just think he hugs the limelight sometimes at the expense of his fighter. I do like the Showtime presentation of there events generally and fact he gets fights to Britain is cool too. He just doesn't have to talk quite as much bullshit, all promoters do obviously but I find him particularly cringe worthy.
I know what you mean with how he comes across. With the Joshua thing he just saw an opportunity in a very empty heavyweight market and it's making them both a lot of money. I don't think any true boxing fan is getting too carried away, it's easy to look at his opponents and see he's been well handled. He needs to have a proper test soon but god knows who that'll be, I think Pulev is favourite but there's not many decent heavyweights out there. Maybe he'll get a shot at Klitschko when he takes his titles back off that bum who's keeping them shiny for him!
Ha haa smokey! Your dislike of the man who achieved the impossible holds no bounds
Hear he missed his presser the other day, the car broke down
Hear he missed his presser the other day, the car broke down
Ha haa smokey! Your dislike of the man who achieved the impossible holds no bounds
Hear he missed his presser the other day, the car broke down
I just don't rate him as a boxer never have mate. Massive credit for what he did I'm not taking that away from him but I think (hope) after 29th October that first fight will go down in heavyweight history as just a blip on Kiltschkos record. Same as Rahman (over Lewis), Spinks (over Ali), Audley Harrison (over anyone he ever beat ha ha)