Red objecting to Everton's planning permission is spiteful. They never objected to our own planning permission.
I already said to you that I was sceptical planning permission would go through, purely on the grade II listed status of the dock walls and the engine house on the site and knowing that English Heritage pull some weight on this. I'm guessing objections would come from the various city heritage groups. I can't see why other football fans would object, although saying that I know one Evertonian who's completely against it because he thinks the land shouldn't be used for any type of sporting facility including any type of arena for the CG.
I looked into the Dock wall after you mentioned it the other day tbh. I don't see how it will cause an issue tbh as the entrance should be ample. The land is currently derelict aside from Sound City, so I don't see why an arena as opposed to office blocks or flats will detract from the development of the Liverpool Waters development.
Neither do I If you look at an aerial view of the Bramley Moore there isn't actually that much space - in terms of a single major structure going up there - obviously the whole north docks is massive. The Peel plans build around the listed buildings and even maintain a lot of the water filled basins, a stadium build wouldn't be able to do that. I don't know, you seem pretty confident and I have no reason to doubt what you've said, just doesn't look doable on only the one dock named.
I would think that you can have the stadium or the team not both. Even chelsea haven't managed both. City got handed one half of it.. and arabs knew it. west ham have robbed one half of it. The rest of us arsneal included had to get on with it. I think personally this TV deal is the time to build. If you say ok we've a pretty good team then we put enough in to improve but put the main focus on the stadium for 5 years then long term you are better off. I think personally if LFC ended up flush with cash having not grossly wasted it on bad buys I'd rather us build the anfield road end and do whatever we are thinking about with kirkby/melwood rathe rthan toss it down the pan. The clubs that are best run will survive the post bubble premier league.... italy had its fall.. i just cannot see sky keep putting this money in. its carzy stuff cos the viewers can't keep paying it. (like netflix the growth overseas slows then the prices climbs)
There's no reason the 2 can't go hand in hand. The stadium could be funded in a number of different ways and the cost repaid over decades. The idea would obviously be to increase match day revenues by an amount equivalent or greater than, the annual cost of the borrowing. A dock lands stadium could be multi use to boot, generating income 7 days a week. As for player investment people don't seem to realise that there's new financial rules come into play this season for the PL - short term cost control or STCC, which limits player wage expenditure for the duration of the current TV deal.
The rules have been amended for this season onwards mate, which covers the period of the new TV deal.
The maximum wage increase is now £7m per season - however this can be offset by increases in commercial or Match day revenue, and player trading profits. Many will assume this relates to net transfer spend, but it doesn't, it relates to the annual amortisation costs.
Oh I see. This FFP malarkey is a load of nonsense though isn't it, I mean they just bend the rules to suit it seems.
Yes and no mate. The domestic rules can be bent in theory by over inflated commercial deals from related sponsors, but the reality appears to be that clubs are seeking to adhere to it.
Tobes the payments on that stadium are not going to be small and with respect theres multiuse and theres multiuse. You wont be running many major concerts just summer time... then conferences and **** like that aint going to pay the bill.. 60k stadium.. how much? 300/400mil? If you are being run right you wont be competing with us let alone arsenal and the big boys while you do it... nor should you. You have to build the other revenues streams and reputation to attract players. After all... theres absolutely nothing wrong with doing it sustainably. This league is mad with money so to actually build a team will require exquisite care rather than just big bucks spending.
