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cumbrianmackem

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Someone from the club to come out and explain to us supporters how the club went about their dealings in the last window.

Someone to tell us what went right and what went wrong in their transfer efforts.

Someone to explain to us in simple English just what the situation is with Yann N'Vila.

Someone who in my opinion should be either David Moyes or our CEO Mr Bain.

Am I expecting too much?.
 
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We will just have to wait and see what transpires in January then make our own minds up about what has gone on, or gone wrong as the case may be. It has not been a bad window, apart from the decisions over Lens and M'Vila, two very good players who we could do with now imo.
 
Kazan wanted £8.5m according to reports today. £8.5 million pounds for a player who can sign a pre contract agreement and move for free in January. Whether we do or don't have a pre contract, no way should a club be held to ransom to that extent. If we'd paid that much for him, this board would all be asking why when he's free in January.
 
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marcusblackcat said:
Kazan wanted £8.5m according to reports today. £8.5 million pounds for a player who can sign a pre contract agreement and move for free in January. Whether we do or don't have a pre contract, no way should a club be held to ransom to that extent. If we'd paid that much for him, this board would all be asking why when he's free in January.
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I understand this point of view, but for say 7 or 8 million we could be so much stronger, apart from anything else, the rewards for staying in this league would more than compensate for any short term setback to our accounts, not to mention any future growth in the players values.
 
marcusblackcat said:
Kazan wanted £8.5m according to reports today. £8.5 million pounds for a player who can sign a pre contract agreement and move for free in January. Whether we do or don't have a pre contract, no way should a club be held to ransom to that extent. If we'd paid that much for him, this board would all be asking why when he's free in January.
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Catch 22
 
clockstander said:
I understand this point of view, but for say 7 or 8 million we could be so much stronger, apart from anything else, the rewards for staying in this league would more than compensate for any short term setback to our accounts, not to mention any future growth in the players values.
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A fortnight ago we all thought Kazan were after 5 million, now its 7 or 8, where does it stop.
We all want Yann here but I think common sense has prevailed here and if we end up loosing him then the club won't get slated by me.
 
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cumbrianmackem said:
A fortnight ago we all thought Kazan were after 5 million, now its 7 or 8, where does it stop.
We all want Yann here but I think common sense has prevailed here and if we end up loosing him then the club won't get slated by me.
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I'm not slating the club mate, not at all, maybe they are in a no win situation with M'Vila we will know more about his intentions in January, talk is cheap as they say. <ok>
 
clockstander said:
We will just have to wait and see what transpires in January then make our own minds up about what has gone on, or gone wrong as the case may be. It has not been a bad window, apart from the decisions over Lens and M'Vila, two very good players who we could do with now imo.
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why wait till jan, this was all about macho dealings, any **** with intelligence should go back to them and say righty hoe then, you stood your ground so did we, here is 2.5 mill you cancel his contract and save on the wages, have a little in the kitty for jan, or play stubborn and we still get him for nowt in 3,9 months.
 
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Amsterdam Roger said:
why wait till jan, this was all about macho dealings, any **** with intelligence should go back to them and say righty hoe then, you stood your ground so did we, here is 2.5 mill you cancel his contract and save on the wages, have a little in the kitty for jan, or play stubborn and we still get him for nowt in 3,9 months.
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Pretty sure that's what happened looking from the outside.
 
In his two most recent interviews Moyes hinted at Rubin asking a lot. For all we know the club could have offered the equivalent of what is left on his contract for his release but they did not want to know.

For all it is a calculated risk I feel it is one worth taking as both club and player know what they are getting in the long term.
 
Amsterdam Roger said:
i know mate but if they cancel his contract now he is a free agent Give Ruben a sweetener all is rosy in the garden
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It doesn't work like that unfortunately.

Even if it did, why would they suddenly accept that now? Reading between the lines that's exactly what we've been offering for the last 3 months. They've said "no **** you its £8m or nothing", what can we do besides sign a pre-contract and tell them to go **** themselves? Seems to me to be exactly what we've done.
 
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This club has to stand it's ground otherwise we'll never make any progress.

Agents have to know that this is a decent club but not one that will be walked all over.

However, I'd say that Allardyce type escapades with Russian clubs, and others, should be avoided.

I'd rather we dealt mainly with British clubs where these ludicrously complicated deals can usually be avoided.
 
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