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Just had to shut all my doors and windows to try to block out an annoying noise which sounds like a distant motocross rally. Can't see it myself, but have been informed its a drone....if true, I will certainly back any ban on their use without a solid reason. It's not loud as such, but you can feel it as much as hear it. Deeply annoying.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-37094526

Have to say I completely agree with the bit I quote .( I love Cats , but Like Dog's as well , so PLEASE don't take this as anti Dog in anyway .)


Speaking to the BBC following the man's death Caroline Kisko, from the Kennel Club, said she believed the act was "completely flawed".
She said the legislation had led to people "being fooled into thinking that just the way a dog looks defines its behaviour".
"The problem is that we've been given the idea that we are all secure because the Dangerous Dogs Act has vilified a certain type of dog and therefore, as long as they're illegal, we're all safe," she said.
"Any dog can be dangerous if it is wrongly handled and wrongly trained."
 
Just had to shut all my doors and windows to try to block out an annoying noise which sounds like a distant motocross rally. Can't see it myself, but have been informed its a drone....if true, I will certainly back any ban on their use without a solid reason. It's not loud as such, but you can feel it as much as hear it. Deeply annoying.


Pardon my French Fran , but DRONES should be ****ing well banned ( for public use / as toys ) . Mate at works son bought one & mate tells of the things his son has seen , thinks it's funny .

Talk about an invasion of privacy !!!
 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-37094526

Have to say I completely agree with the bit I quote .( I love Cats , but Like Dog's as well , so PLEASE don't take this as anti Dog in anyway .)


Speaking to the BBC following the man's death Caroline Kisko, from the Kennel Club, said she believed the act was "completely flawed".
She said the legislation had led to people "being fooled into thinking that just the way a dog looks defines its behaviour".
"The problem is that we've been given the idea that we are all secure because the Dangerous Dogs Act has vilified a certain type of dog and therefore, as long as they're illegal, we're all safe," she said.
"Any dog can be dangerous if it is wrongly handled and wrongly trained."

Read that article the other day and agree with it almost entirely. Says it all for me that over 2/3's of deaths caused by dogs in past 25(?) years were caused by legal breeds.

It all comes down to the owners.
 
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The details may be skewed by the fact that the number of banned dogs has been reduced, but even if not I still think certain dogs should be banned. The mere fact you want a pit bull should be a reason to disqualify you from owning one. Properly trained I'm sure they can be as nice as any dog, but they do have jaws you can't prize apart. I'd fancy the chance of a grown man getting a Labrador off someone, but not so certain with bulldog types. It's not as if it is against human rights not to be able to have a pit bull or akita....there are plenty of other dogs. Yes, it is the owner....not the dog, but I see no reason to use that as an argument to repeal the law.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-37094526

Have to say I completely agree with the bit I quote .( I love Cats , but Like Dog's as well , so PLEASE don't take this as anti Dog in anyway .)


Speaking to the BBC following the man's death Caroline Kisko, from the Kennel Club, said she believed the act was "completely flawed".
She said the legislation had led to people "being fooled into thinking that just the way a dog looks defines its behaviour".
"The problem is that we've been given the idea that we are all secure because the Dangerous Dogs Act has vilified a certain type of dog and therefore, as long as they're illegal, we're all safe," she said.
"Any dog can be dangerous if it is wrongly handled and wrongly trained."

Its the owners that are the problem. Had a Alsatian jump over my Jack Russell which was on it's lead (the Alsatian wasn't). I asked him to control it as I was trying to pull my dog away and was told she won't do anything. I had to point out that there was a fair chance my nippy Jack Russell may well bite her as he was being jumped on. He was genuinely surprised, it hadn't occurred to him despite the Jack Russell's reputation.
 
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The details may be skewed by the fact that the number of banned dogs has been reduced, but even if not I still think certain dogs should be banned. The mere fact you want a pit bull should be a reason to disqualify you from owning one. Properly trained I'm sure they can be as nice as any dog, but they do have jaws you can't prize apart. I'd fancy the chance of a grown man getting a Labrador off someone, but not so certain with bulldog types. It's not as if it is against human rights not to be able to have a pit bull or akita....there are plenty of other dogs. Yes, it is the owner....not the dog, but I see no reason to use that as an argument to repeal the law.

It depends where abouts you are in the country I suppose. Plenty of pits in and around Southampton.

A good friend of mine has a pit cross staff and is one of the nicest family dogs you will ever see. So placid and soft as ****e. If not my Son certainly wouldn't of been crawling around the floor with him at around 9 months old.

As for the lock jaw can't Staffordshire bull terriers do that as well? I may have that wrong though...
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-37094526

"Any dog can be dangerous if it is wrongly handled and wrongly trained."

And not just then - any dog can turn and attack, especially when children are involved (I know that wasn't the case here). A baby was killed a couple of miles from here a few years ago. The dog was a long-time family pet, a Jack Russell which, according to the family was the sweetest thing ever so what do they do? Leave it in a room alone with the baby. A few minutes later they experienced the biggest tragedy ever :emoticon-0106-cryin
 
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No baby should ever be left with a dog. The child only has to whimper and a dog's curiosity is raised. May not even mean harm...but young children are so vulnerable. Even cats have killed babies without any intent to do so. And people should stop kids annoying dogs....no rough housing. A good rule is that the dog must be left alone if it is in its bed....gives the dog a place of safety.
 
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And not just then - any dog can turn and attack, especially when children are involved (I know that wasn't the case here). A baby was killed a couple of miles from here a few years ago. The dog was a long-time family pet, a Jack Russell which, according to the family was the sweetest thing ever so what do they do? Leave it in a room alone with the baby. A few minutes later they experienced the biggest tragedy ever :emoticon-0106-cryin

I have never understood why anyone would trust any dog alone with a small child. They don't understand each other and it just means trouble. The child will be noisy and hype the dog up, a recipe for disaster.
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No baby should ever be left with a dog. The child only has to whimper and a dog's curiosity is raised. May not even mean harm...but young children are so vulnerable. Even cats have killed babies without any intent to do so. And people should stop kids annoying dogs....no rough housing. A good rule is that the dog must be left alone if it is in its bed....gives the dog a place of safety.

Oh I never left him alone with him!!

Edit - just realised that wasn't a reply to me <laugh>
 
I generally prefer bigger dogs, but I like Jack Russells...real characters and bright as buttons.

Jack Russell's have always terrified me. I remember being scared ****less by them on the milk round as a lad and now there is a pair on the kids paper round. Why do they always come in twos? Terrifying little beggars.