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  1. Garlic Klopp

    Garlic Klopp Well-Known Member

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    Was he not captain at PSG
     
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  2. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Not sure tbh.

    They sold him so maybe it didn't work out too well <laugh>
     
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    All of this is perfectly true, yet a captain needs more than this. He needs not only to be an organiser, but also be level-headed and responsible.
    I know you dislike Hendo and Milner, but these are the qualities that make managers give the armband to players like that.
     
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    He was built as a leader when he arrived because he'd captained a poor PSG team (before they had mega money and we're languishing in the lower depths of the French league) in his earlier years.

    Leaders come in different ways but I've not seen any suggestion of an organiser whilst he's been with us (anyone can do the odd shout when not happy) and I can't see him being a leader by example either.

    Getting caught up in a drug dilemma (no matter the reasoning) or getting sent home from a tour for breaking club rules suggest he's not cut out to be a captain either.

    However, I do agree with Jimmy that we seriously lack leaders too.
     
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  5. Zanjinho

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    See my last comment ^^^^
     
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  6. saintanton

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    That would involve reading, though......

    I thought I'd read that he was made captain at PSG as a sort of political move because a number of the senior players were getting too big for their silly boots.
    I don't know how long it lasted.
    However, I'm not really bothered about the past, I'm going on what I see at our club and so far I see a distinct lack of the qualities required to be a leader.
     
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    No idea how it came about. Just know he was their captain but before they were good.
     
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  8. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    I do agree with you - I wouldn't have Henderson as a captain because he's a bottler.

    I really hope we groom Can for captainancy. <ok>
     
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  9. Garlic Klopp

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    I want another captain in the Emlyn Hughes mould, not the most talented but gave his all and pushed everyone in the team to do the same.
     
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    Or a Souness
     
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  11. Solid Air 2

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    Souness <yikes>

    great player but his discipline left a little to be desired <whistle>

    still remember him at wembley on the ground with an opposition player . As the ball was swept forward Souness suddenly dragged the rising oppo player back to the ground a promptly punched him. Even back then commentators referred to his "ferocious" tackling on occasion which appeared to be code for "christ how did he not cause a serious injury with that outrageous tackle"
    Possibly not the best example without even considering his Rangers sojourn
     
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  12. Zanjinho

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    I love that commitment in a captain. Gerrard and Carra had it, Suarez too. Mascherano was another although he never captained us I don't think.

    You don't need the captain / leader to step up when winning. You need them when the ****s hit the fan.
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Thats amazing inflation.
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    How many times did he get sent off for us though.. 359 odd games, how many reds
     
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  15. Solid Air 2

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    oh come on it was sodding difficult to get sent off back then i mean you really had to work at it :bandit:

    in other words don't know but i bet you Tommy Smith had a relatively unblemished record as well <whistle>
     
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    Different times though. I think he'd collect a few these days.
     
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    I wish I was around to see Souness in the flesh - watched countless videos etc and he is probably my favourite LFC player from that era.

    He is the exact type of midfielder we need right now.
     
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    Players like him don't come around very often probably only 1 or 2 a generation and seriously he would have to greatly restrain himself to play in this day and age.Even back then he had rep as a hard/dangerous player
     
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  19. Garlic Klopp

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    I can remember we had not been beaten at home for ages and we played Borough with Souness in their midfield, they beat us I think it was 2 - 0 and it was all down to him. We signed him a couple of seasons later I think.
     
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