Pogba is a brilliant player but you cannot spend that much on one player - even if the player is Messi or ronaldo.
Better off spending that money on 2-4 really top players.
Better off spending that money on 2-4 really top players.
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Trouble is it sets the bar ever higher all the time. There won't be many going for that price, but it makes the seemingly extravagant fees paid for the likes of Suarez and Sterling seem less ridiculous than they really are.
It isn't that long ago that 20-25 mil would get you a top player, now it's an entry level payment for anyone decent.
All joking aside, if you remember I said he was a good signing for you when he arrived.
However, he's obviously suffering from a lack of confidence at Anfield and Klopp patently isn't having him. Have injuries taken their toll on him? Dunno.
He needs a move for sure, and he needs to the first choice at wherever he ends up imo.
Not sure I'd want that to be us like, but it would be funny if we took him on loan tbh.
Serious question (I'll leave the wind-ups to astro, he's so much better at it).
Don't you think that a club with money that it intends to spend, usually gets their business done as quickly as possible? If you dither - and we've done this often enough - then one of the big-hitters will usually step in.
By leaving it nearer to the end of the window you can get a bargain, if you're lucky, or you can buy badly out of desperation.
We know that one all too well also.
Big spenders don't look for bargains, they pay what is necessary for what they want - because they can.
Of course it may be that you just can't see what you want atm, but I wouldn't be certain that the right ones are going to materialise in the next month.
If your targets are beyond the level you are currently batting at, then you have to accept that you're not going to be the first choice for that level of player.
So it's not a case of money or wages, it's a case of a player waiting to see if a more attractive proposition materialises, notably a club with CL football on offer.
Witsel is a classic example, his club have accepted our offer, the player and his agent are reportedly happy with the deal on offer, but they're waiting to see if Juventus appear once the Pogba deal concludes. Another of our targets is probably subject to that move being completed as well.
We could say **** it and move our sights further down the foodchain, but that's when you end up spending money and failing to significantly improve on what you've already got.
We need a marquee signing to drop, and then that could be the catalyst for others to follow. I'd rather us approach the task as we are doing than spunk cash for the sake of it.
In fairness to everton they had to get the manager and the technical director they did get in first.
They are only in together 2 weeks? 3?
So if i were an everyon fan id rather the manager oks signings than make them early.
However marquee signings dont happen. Lfc can sell out whatever fee and wage and they dont happen.
The simple fact is the result have to come first.
If arsenal were not consistently at the top table would sanchez and ozil go there?? Nope.
Spurs didnt get a marquee signing after berbatov and keane they bought modric and made him. They wasted 90% of the bale money and its been smart buying thats got them consistency around 70 point. They will not get a marquee signing in off one season in cl.
So......
Smart business is what we all should be looking for. Getting hungry players not the draxlers out there... or gotzes.
This is why in confused about wijnaldum for lfc
They are only in together 2 weeks? 3?
So if i were an everyon fan id rather the manager oks signings than make them early.
However marquee signings dont happen. Lfc can sell out whatever fee and wage and they dont happen.
The simple fact is the result have to come first.
If arsenal were not consistently at the top table would sanchez and ozil go there?? Nope.
Spurs didnt get a marquee signing after berbatov and keane they bought modric and made him. They wasted 90% of the bale money and its been smart buying thats got them consistency around 70 point. They will not get a marquee signing in off one season in cl.
So......
Smart business is what we all should be looking for. Getting hungry players not the draxlers out there... or gotzes.
This is why in confused about wijnaldum for lfc
What about Robinho to City then mate?
That was the catalyst for their arrival as a World force under the Abu Dhabi's.
It was a statement of intent, as much as adding a quality player to the squad. It put City on the map.
Signing hungry prospects is a gamble, buying proven quality - far less so. The challenge is convincing one to sign.
To be fair on Everton they've just got a new manager and also a new head of recruitment (or scouting, or whatever he is?) so it's understandable they haven't rushed in to buy anyone.
I expect them to be one of the busier clubs from Monday. Koeman has now had chance to look at what he wants etc. It's not ideal but when you sack a manager it's never ideal.
There's been massive changes across all fronts at Goodison so the reality is they couldn't have just gone gun ho in the transfer market as early as we did.
Whether they can attract the players they want will be interesting.
But they need to start moving quickly from now, or like you say it'll be a last minute rush.
I wouldnt realky agree.
City were owned by the corrupt thai pm and had sheeled money the arabs had 24 hours to sign and the guy thought he was ij chelsea... it was a disaster but when city are shelling 200k per week out thry got all the mercs they needed.
You do know that sven bought loads of players as did hughes.
I would not sau robinho heralded their success or started it.
You want a robinho basically fine cos he was nearly.. not quite but nearly... as bad as balotelli for us.
PLEASE waste the Lukaku money... btw wasnt lucky not a big signing?
Paul Pogba, meanwhile has told fans in New York that he will stay at Juventus next season, but was he telling the truth?
Robinho was their first buy and he was a World star at the time, it was a definite statement of intent, and then opened the door for many others to follow in the winter window.
Not sure Lukaku will be moving this window tbh. I can see him signing a new deal with a buy out clause for next summer.
Going to have to disagree. It was a statement but they still were not signing world stars.
The following january window they signed:
Wayne bridge who was our reserve left back
Nigel De Jong who was not a big name from Hamburg
Shay Given from Newcastle
Craig Bellamy from West Ham, this when he'd already been fobbed off by Liverpool.
The following season they signed:
Adam johnson
an old OAP free transfer Vieira
Lescott
Sylvinho
Kolo Toure
Adebayor
Barry
Santa Cruz
and the biggest Name of Tevez but more because he's a mercenary
Oh and they finished 10th the year they signed Robinho and 5th the year after.
I think the real catalyst is buying all these solid players at overinflated prices followed by Mancini coming in who although not a brilliant manager bought some brilliant players in Yaya toure and David Silva
So Viera, Adebayor, Tevez and Santa Cruz weren't big names when they signed them? Eh?
De Jong wasn't an unknown either, they paid £16m for him
In the space of a year they spent £250m and established themselves as a club who could attract and sign top drawer players.
Robinho was the start of it, ask any City fan.
Just because they paid big bucks doesn't mean they are big names. De Jong came from Hamburg and was not an elite dm. Solid yes but he's probably as big as a name as all your other midfield enforcers like Scott Parker and the fact that he was playing in a Bundesliga which was relatively known as a weak league back then.
Roque Santa Cruz had just spent 2 years at Blackburn and was scoring goals. He was hardly a massive name. It would be akin to Chelsea buying Lukaku or Graziano Pelle and say we've got a top drawer player when they are clearly not top class players.
I've stated Tevez is a big name. Adebayor I will give you that as well if you want.
Vieira old and past it by then. It's akin to if Chelsea bought Stevey G now and said we'd bought a world class player.
Obviously the signings elevated them to a higher level, but they still weren't at champions league level. It was the arrival of Mancini as the manager with a big name that helped the next level of players to come. Couple that with stupid amounts of money and now having progressed as MITO puts it that City have become as big as they are.
0-0 Rooney testimonial and he only played 53 minutes. Let's hope the charity money does some good because no one else benefitted
Sorry yeah, 2nd highest still at the club, 3rd highest overall
Mancini spent less in his first 2 years than Hughes did in the previous 2.
He added the likes of Milner, Rodwell and Scott Sinclair, along side the names of Toure and Silva.
It took the Arabs less than 4 years from the date they arrived to lift the title.
Benteke for Lukaku would seriously improve Everton. For all his goals Lukaku achieved **** all at Everton [HASHTAG]#doingalukaku[/HASHTAG] whereas Benteke's fewer appearances and lesser role for us still resulted in him winning more points (Benteke 13-10 Lukaku) [HASHTAG]#doingabenteke[/HASHTAG]
Lukaku is like Sterling in that you need to take into account how much the team was built around them when they do well and how much they [HASHTAG]#bottledit[/HASHTAG] when things weren't perfect for them