Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?


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Tell you what, all you who keep asking me questions and then when I don't tell you exactly what don't want hear, insult me. You ****ing broke it, so you own it, you sort it out!...,

What have you spuds done with PNP ? I thought he'd be into this debate. He's usually got an opinion, whether you want to hear it or not :tongue:
 
That's EVERY year. Any serious economist knows that without City earnings the UK economy would be considerably poorer!...

But, I forgot, you know better of course...

Every serious economist does know that, but every serious economist cannot and will not argue that BIG (there's shouting for you <ok>) mistakes were made over quite a number of years, these exploding upon us all in 2008 onwards. The economies of the world are still paying for them, they haven't gone away - otherwise City earnings would be able to be shown as being far better than they are. Just so it is clear for you and you only, they are doing okay despite the huge ****-ups and dereliction of duty they exercised and the national and international funding that had to rescue them from their irresponsibility (I don't ignore the culpability of the national governments and the EU in this clusterfuck). The fact that you ignore or gloss over this still very real problem detracts still more from any claim you have as an expert.

Your memory is poor, because this comes from someone who has previously told you that he is someone with an informed Layman's knowledge and opinion. What a ****ing chump you are; your credibility is blown, your knowledge is biased, your reasoning also biased, yet you still bump your internet gums to tell us all what we should think. <doh>
 
I'm stating the fact that the poll you're clinging to has been discredited by those involved, and those that matter, and even if it wasn't, it doesn't lead to another referendum. Your horse is dead, put the stick down and save your energy.
Who are those people. Please let me know so I can contact them and point out the error of their ways.
 
Every serious economist does know that, but every serious economist cannot and will not argue that BIG (there's shouting for you <ok>) mistakes were made over quite a number of years, these exploding upon us all in 2008 onwards. The economies of the world are still paying for them, they haven't gone away - otherwise City earnings would be able to be shown as being far better than they are. Just so it is clear for you and you only, they are doing okay despite the huge ****-ups and dereliction of duty they exercised and the national and international funding that had to rescue them from their irresponsibility (I don't ignore the culpability of the national governments and the EU in this clusterfuck). The fact that you ignore or gloss over this still very real problem detracts still more from any claim you have as an expert.

Your memory is poor, because this comes from someone who has previously told you that he is someone with an informed Layman's knowledge and opinion. What a ****ing chump you are; your credibility is blown, your knowledge is biased, your reasoning also biased, yet you still bump your internet gums to tell us all what we should think. <doh>

There you go again!!
Mouthing off about things you know **** all about. An 'informed' <laugh> layman's opinion!

You really don't have a ****ing clue what's really going on, do you?
 
What have you spuds done with PNP ? I thought he'd be into this debate. He's usually got an opinion, whether you want to hear it or not :tongue:
The result of the referendum has sent him into catatonic shock and he is unable to type. Even news that Hodgson has resigned has had no recuperative effect.
 
You do know that British people are allowed to go abroad and are allowed to vote from there. Or are you suggesting that the Pope, Kim Jong-un and the entire Iceland football team have voted for a revote

Try looking into the reports by of those who have analysed the voting nature of the poll. It has been discredited by those who would be best served to give it credit. Forget it; if a referendum or GE is eventually required this poll will have no influence - in fact, in the short term it is a nuisance.
 
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Tell you what, all you who keep asking me questions and then when I don't tell you exactly what don't want hear, insult me. You ****ing broke it, so you own it. You sort it out!...,

Was that just you pissing your pants and going home? <laugh>
 
There you go again!!
Mouthing off about things you know **** all about. An 'informed' <laugh> layman's opinion!

You really don't have a ****ing clue what's really going on, do you?

Yes and I have argued my reasons why, rather than trying to take a pompous expert opinion. You come across as someone who made a good cup of coffee before they got a machine. Other experts, unlike you (sic), are currently forecasting outcomes and working towards options for solutions to the various elements of the change; you have been asked for your expert opinion and you say you cannot offer one. Perhaps it's time you ****ed off and waited for real experts to deal with it?
 
Because, as Merkel has said, you can't cherry pick what parts of the EU regs you like and which you don't. She has been quite clear that there will be no free trade without free movement.

If you want unrestricted access to trade with the EU, then that's part of the price.
so why dont they insist on that with USA and Iceland for example?
 
Yes and I have argued my reasons why, rather than trying to take a pompous expert opinion. You come across as someone who made a good cup of coffee before they got a machine. Other experts, unlike you (sic), are currently forecasting outcomes and working towards options for solutions to the various elements of the change; you have been asked for your expert opinion and you say you cannot offer one. Perhaps it's time you ****ed off and waited for real experts to deal with it?

Perhaps it's time that you just ****ed off and came back in the unlikely event you have something relevant and constructive to say!..?
 
Every serious economist does know that, but every serious economist cannot and will not argue that BIG (there's shouting for you <ok>) mistakes were made over quite a number of years, these exploding upon us all in 2008 onwards. The economies of the world are still paying for them, they haven't gone away - otherwise City earnings would be able to be shown as being far better than they are. Just so it is clear for you and you only, they are doing okay despite the huge ****-ups and dereliction of duty they exercised and the national and international funding that had to rescue them from their irresponsibility (I don't ignore the culpability of the national governments and the EU in this clusterfuck). The fact that you ignore or gloss over this still very real problem detracts still more from any claim you have as an expert.

Your memory is poor, because this comes from someone who has previously told you that he is someone with an informed Layman's knowledge and opinion. What a ****ing chump you are; your credibility is blown, your knowledge is biased, your reasoning also biased, yet you still bump your internet gums to tell us all what we should think. <doh>

What the **** has the global crash of '08 got to do with economic predictions for a post Brexit UK?

The vast majority of 'serious economists' - 88% - have predicted a post Brexit economy that will suffer for at least 5 years, and 72% predict it'll still be suffering in the next 10-20 years.

82% predict a drop in household income over the next 5 years, and 73% predict that drop will continue for the next 10-20 years.

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/economists-views-on-brexit-2016-charts.pdf

You're trying to belittle NSIS's view as a former trader, and you also sound as bitter as **** that he obviously did quite well out of it.
 
There also isn't a street in the City that would be unwelcoming to newcomers, southermers and scousers excluded, No offence, it's the voice and attitude. <ok>.

You keep on trying to tell me what I think, and why I think it, and seemingly feeling superior and claiming to expert knowledge which you feel over rides my experience.

Really...

A survey of black and minority ethnic communities in Hull in 2001 found that 40 per cent had suffered some form of racist abuse.

http://www.irr.org.uk/news/hull-hundreds-of-asylum-seekers-protest-against-racism/

We can add complete delusion to your list of character traits.
 
so why dont they insist on that with USA and Iceland for example?[/QUOTE
What the **** has the global crash of '08 got to do with economic predictions for a post Brexit UK?

The vast majority of 'serious economists' - 88% - have predicted a post Brexit economy that will suffer for at least 5 years, and 72% predict it'll still be suffering in the next 10-20 years.

82% predict a drop in household income over the next 5 years, and 73% predict that drop will continue for the next 10-20 years.

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/economists-views-on-brexit-2016-charts.pdf

You're trying to belittle NSIS's view as a former trader, and you also sound as bitter as **** that he obviously did quite well out of it.

Tobes, I'm tired of arguing the toss with ****wits like him. They read the Internet for an hour and think they know more than somebody who worked in an industry for over 20yrs.

He's just an angry, bitter, shouty little man, who sounds like he's angry with the whole world. Particularly those that don't agree with him or try to tell him something that doesn't agree with his own views.
 
What the **** has the global crash of '08 got to do with economic predictions for a post Brexit UK?

Much.
Given the key events are nearly a decade ago, what were their predictions on the time frame / level of recovery etc ??

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Really...

A survey of black and minority ethnic communities in Hull in 2001 found that 40 per cent had suffered some form of racist abuse.

http://www.irr.org.uk/news/hull-hundreds-of-asylum-seekers-protest-against-racism/

We can add complete delusion to your list of character traits.


A survey of black and minority ethnic communities in Hull in 2001 found that 40 per cent had suffered some form of racist abuse. In the same year, an asylum seeker was stabbed in the throat and another lost an eye in a catapult attack.

The stabbing and catapult attack were done by fellow migrants.
 
There also isn't a street in the City that would be unwelcoming to newcomers, southermers and scousers excluded, No offence, it's the voice and attitude.

Have to laugh at that, I've lived all over the country and have to say that beside London (and of course this is a general view as I haven't met everyone) the South and Midlands is much more welcoming than up North. The friendliest city would be Nottingham (especially the women) then Liverpool. The most unwelcoming 2 would be Leeds and York. Just my experience though.
 
Much.
Given the key events are nearly a decade ago, what were their predictions on the time frame / level of recovery etc ??

<Tetlock>
It's a completely different set of circumstances though.

The Global crash was just that - global. It was an issue that affected the main markets across the planet equally hard.

What this is, is a unilateral action by an island state that sits off the coast of the EU landmass. We're voluntarily putting ourselves into a period of economic downturn by removing our trade agreements with the market that takes nearly 50% of our goods and services. It doesn't take Einstein to figure out that there's going to be some pain that comes with that decision.
 
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