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Also run the risk of going for players that haven't yet played in the PL, at least with Mane we know he can perform well the PL.
 
Enricky. said:
Also run the risk of going for players that haven't yet played in the PL, at least with Mane we know he can perform well the PL.
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sure thats always a risk, as is ending up with a dud from the prem as we've proved.

Every transfer is a risk. I'm just thinking this fee is well over what it should be.
 
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InEnglandWeTrust said:
Cheaper but any better? Seen Markovic struggle when coming in, he was cheaper. Lallana was cheaper as wel.

Yeah ah we can all point to people that will be cheaper but does it mean they will be better though?

Our whole scouting system seems to need an overhaul to be honest, far too lazy at identifying targets before they have played in prem or for a big club. But Klopp has a decent enough transfer record and if he's given green light for mane at a high price then h le obviously rates him well enough.

I'd rather we try to add a very good player like mane than take another couple of risks on two 20 year olds for £15m each who both might flop and we end with no one decent.
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I just think we've gone back to an old target (pre southampton) said here klopp you want him or nothing and basically seeing we are out of CL we went ofr it.

I think the strategy pre europa league final and last few prem games got ripped up and we are scrambling here.

I hope thats not the case but i get the bad feelings.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
sure thats always a risk, as is ending up with a dud from the prem as we've proved.

Every transfer is a risk. I'm just thinking this fee is well over what it should be.
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So we're back at what is a £30mil player these days??

I know he's slightly over but for arguments sake - what is a £30mil player now the money is insane?

I'd say it's a £15mil player 2 years ago. Therefore the fee is about right <ok>
 
Skylarker said:
So we're back at what is a £30mil player these days??

I know he's slightly over but for arguments sake - what is a £30mil player now the money is insane?

I'd say it's a £15mil player 2 years ago. Therefore the fee is about right <ok>
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I think its hard to say. I dunno if a 30 can equal a 15 player 2 years ago.. that seems a bit strong. I'd take the view that. torres cost 23mil in 2007 at the same age now 50mil does seem about right so... is a double the fee since 2007/8 seem fair?

So who cost 15mil in 2007? Babel cost 11? so would babel be a 25mil player today? Depay was....

SIGH.... any way i think about it players doesn't seem to be to be capable of returning thier invesments at this sort of fee.
If we can gain something like 3/4mil per league slot then mane would need to

a) sell a **** load of shirts
b) get us 2/3 places higher in tbale
 
Cost isn't just about how good a player is. It's also based on how good he could potentially become, go along left on contract, how important he is to the selling club.

Mane ne has years to go on contract and was key player at saints so he was always going to be a bit more expensive to us, where as saints fans think he's gone cheaply.

We we sold sterling for 50m, was he worh it? No... But he was young and had long time on contract so the price was inflated. Who cares really? Like I said earlier, unless it stops up getting a LB or CM then doesn't matter if it was 25 30 or 35 really
 
InEnglandWeTrust said:
Cost isn't just about how good a player is. It's also based on how good he could potentially become, go along left on contract, how important he is to the selling club.

Mane ne has years to go on contract and was key player at saints so he was always going to be a bit more expensive to us, where as saints fans think he's gone cheaply.

We we sold sterling for 50m, was he worh it? No... But he was young and had long time on contract so the price was inflated. Who cares really? Like I said earlier, unless it stops up getting a LB or CM then doesn't matter if it was 25 30 or 35 really
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wise words.

Wanyama had 12 months left so goes for 11mil. If he'd 3 left he'd not have moved as he'd be pricedd out of market.

Too true on sterling. city really wanted english player and over paid for him.
 
It's why Joe Allen will go for about £10 rather than the deserved £30m <whistle>
 
£35m is about right. That makes him the most expensive player we've ever sold which you can't complain about with climate and the potential he has.

He can be very incosistent but on his day he's borderline unplayable, such a joy to watch in the flesh too as those who attend games will soon find out. Can be frustrating at times and if he misses a chance or 2 then it seems to get to him.

He does have potential to be genuinely world class though so could look like a snip in a year or 2.

Genuine question, does anyone here think that instead of constantly buying from us you would be better off investing money in your scouting/infrastructure instead? Surely would be better long term planning?

Fancy you lot to do really well this year tbf. Top 4 min I reckon.
 
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The Liebherr Legacy said:
£35m is about right. That makes him the most expensive player we've ever sold which you can't complain about with climate and the potential he has.

He can be very incosistent but on his day he's borderline unplayable, such a joy to watch in the flesh too as those who attend games will soon find out. Can be frustrating at times and if he misses a chance or 2 then it seems to get to him.

He does have potential to be genuinely world class though so could look like a snip in a year or 2.

Genuine question, does anyone here think that instead of constantly buying from us you would be better off investing money in your scouting/infrastructure instead? Surely would be better long term planning?

Fancy you lot to do really well this year tbf. Top 4 min I reckon.
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I think a lot of top teams with money are lazy. It's far easier for us, city, United, Chelsea etc to buy someone from 30m from you guys than try and find him 2 years before for 10m.

Not it only that, but different pressure. No disrespect, but when we sign players we need them to make an immediate impact where as at you guys they have that bit more time to adjust because expectation isn't as high. Look at Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, at Leicester they had far less pressure to make an impact so could develop
 
InEnglandWeTrust said:
I think a lot of top teams with money are lazy. It's far easier for us, city, United, Chelsea etc to buy someone from 30m from you guys than try and find him 2 years before for 10m.

Not it only that, but different pressure. No disrespect, but when we sign players we need them to make an immediate impact where as at you guys they have that bit more time to adjust because expectation isn't as high. Look at Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, at Leicester they had far less pressure to make an impact so could develop
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Agree with most of that to an extent and take your point about different pressures etc.

I just think that if you were run as well as we seem to be with regards scouting/academy etc. then you wouldn't need to be spending almost £100m on players from us!!
 
The Liebherr Legacy said:
Agree with most of that to an extent and take your point about different pressures etc.

I just think that if you were run as well as we seem to be with regards scouting/academy etc. then you wouldn't need to be spending almost £100m on players from us!!
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Other point is, you guys go in for a player, it's £10m. Us, city, United go in for same player, immediately it's £15m. Clubs know can charge a bit more.

i don't think any of us disagree that we'd love to be able to sign some unknowns from abroad or young players in England for next to nothing and develop them into superstars
 
I agree with Liebheer that southampton are much better run.

I do agree with IBWT that there is a big club haircut some try to take for sure
 
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