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The Relic said:
Sorry mate, but 'honor' goes back to the Norman conquest, when portions of land were distributed as rewards for good military service to Willie the Conc. Webster wasn't going to argue with the original word because it was phonetic and therefore the easiest to use.
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The use of the term 'honour' to refer to an individual's land holdings or estates does date back to the Conquest period, yes. But as spelling of the English language wasn't standardised until the late 18th/early 19th century a number of spellings could be used for a single word, even within the same document. So you might find honour spelled as 'honor', 'honore', 'honour', or any other variation. As Webster's dictionary came after the standardisation of English spelling his 'reforms' and the removal of the u from standard English spelling are technically the alteration to the correct standard spelling of the word, not the word that appears in the OED
 
The Norton Cat said:
The use of the term 'honour' to refer to an individual's land holdings or estates does date back to the Conquest period, yes. But as spelling of the English language wasn't standardised until the late 18th/early 19th century a number of spellings could be used for a single word, even within the same document. So you might find honour spelled as 'honor', 'honore', 'honour', or any other variation. As Webster's dictionary came after the standardisation of English spelling his 'reforms' and the removal of the u from standard English spelling are technically the alteration to the correct standard spelling of the word, not the word that appears in the OED
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If you're saying that 'honor', 'honore', etc. could all have gone to the Americas via different settlers, I'm sure you're right. Furthermore, any standardisation in England after about 1700 was a shadowy bit of news arriving from 3,000 miles away, and not of any great import. All Webster did was to decide which of the versions already in America was to be standard in the U.S.A. He didn't alter anything.
 
The Relic said:
If you're saying that 'honor', 'honore', etc. could all have gone to the Americas via different settlers, I'm sure you're right. Furthermore, any standardisation in England after about 1700 was a shadowy bit of news arriving from 3,000 miles away, and not of any great import. All Webster did was to decide which of the versions already in America was to be standard in the U.S.A. He didn't alter anything.
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No, I am saying quite simply that prior to the standardisation of English spelling and grammar, a variety of spellings were used. Hence the appearance of 'honor' in the 17th century document that you saw. When English spelling and grammar was standardised 'honour' became the accepted spelling. When Webster came along, he decided he didn't like the accepted English spellings. He considered that those spellings were the result of corruption of the language by the English aristocracy and deliberately changed them to simpler or phonetic spellings, e.g. changing 'honour' to 'honor', 'colour' to 'color' etc. Therefore, Webster took the standardised English spellings and altered them.
 
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I shall be qualified for a degree at this rate.

If the degree is random Olde English and New America utter poop.


Harold..ey up cocksparra that muffin has a harp.

Harold. Ow that **** just shooted me in my visual outlet.

Willie and co like a scene out of Monty Phython. Oo lala engleesh pigs. Die.

Harold. French ****s. Brexit.
 
18 mill euros, is a lot more than it was Thursday lol.

Take your point commachio 1, sorry I get excited when a page takes of thinking we are making progress on a player to find its just the boys entertaining themselves. My own frustrations, I guess. And whoever else I upset, pi55ed someone else of lol

Anyway, think I will have egg and bacon for breakfast, think jalapeño meatballs and pasta for lunch and maybe fish and veg for tea. If anything changes will keep you informed
 
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13thtop said:
18 mill euros, is a lot more than it was Thursday lol.

Take your point commachio 1, sorry I get excited when a page takes of thinking we are making progress on a player to find its just the boys entertaining themselves. My own frustrations, I guess. And whoever else I upset, pi55ed someone else of lol

Anyway, think I will have egg and bacon for breakfast, think jalapeño meatballs and pasta for lunch and maybe fish and veg for tea. If anything changes will keep you informed
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You should go for two or three eggs... plural.

One is just pointless.
 
13thtop said:
18 mill euros, is a lot more than it was Thursday lol.

Take your point commachio 1, sorry I get excited when a page takes of thinking we are making progress on a player to find its just the boys entertaining themselves. My own frustrations, I guess. And whoever else I upset, pi55ed someone else of lol

Anyway, think I will have egg and bacon for breakfast, think jalapeño meatballs and pasta for lunch and maybe fish and veg for tea. If anything changes will keep you informed
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Swap the veg for chips. Nice days scran that.
 
commachio1 said:
Did you know in 1066 eggs were called eggs, and pronounced eggs.

The american term for eggs is eggs.

****ing yanks..<laugh>
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Eggs was the preferred term in northern dialects of Old English and came from Old Norse. In southern dialects, the preferred term for egg was 'ey' or 'eai' which has proto-Germanic roots. 'Ey' is preserved in the term 'cockney', literally meaning 'the egg of a male chicken' implying something fake or not to be trusted.


Just saying, like.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
Eggs was the preferred term in northern dialects of Old English and came from Old Norse. In southern dialects, the preferred term for egg was 'ey' or 'eai' which has proto-Germanic roots. 'Ey' is preserved in the term 'cockney', literally meaning 'the egg of a male chicken' implying something fake or not to be trusted.


Just saying, like.
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<laugh>. Wtf?
 
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