Off Topic BREXIT

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Liz Was OUT

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other winners and losers. Eddie Izzard ****er

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-oh-joy-losers-EU-referendum-Richard-Kay.html

 

[modnrock]

Eck tis footy time. Suited booted and riding in. Style.

 

[DMD]

Are tariffs a reasonable option, compared to creating an environment that's geared to support suppliers in providing consumers with a quality product at the right price?

 

[pierredelafranchesca]

I've not been on this thread as i'm still in a state of shock, there is no point as a Remain supporter trying to point out to those who voted leave why we believe they're wrong, people have voted it's over. What happens now and in the future will happen, I hope i'm wrong and that those who have voted for leave don't end up in a situation that is worse than they have now, sadly I think that the largest portion of the less well off in this country will have voted to leave as they have become so dissatisfied with the perceived state of the country that change appeared to be the best option, and if a recession does bite it will unfortunately be those people who get it in the neck first and often hardest. Time will tell.

For those who have voted leave, based on rational thought, fair play to you, but I will leave it with one video which i believe sums up why a decision like this should never have been made by the general public. The first gentleman sums up what I believe to have been a small portion of the exit voters, not representative of all of them by any means, but of a significant enough percentage to have swayed the vote. People so ****ing ill informed and stupid should not be allowed to influence policy so.

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[DMD]

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[Chazz Rheinhold]

Thats superb Dutch.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I've not been on this thread as i'm still in a state of shock, there is no point as a Remain supporter trying to point out to those who voted leave why we believe they're wrong, people have voted it's over. What happens now and in the future will happen, I hope i'm wrong and that those who have voted for leave don't end up in a situation that is worse than they have now, sadly I think that the largest portion of the less well off in this country will have voted to leave as they have become so dissatisfied with the perceived state of the country that change appeared to be the best option, and if a recession does bite it will unfortunately be those people who get it in the neck first and often hardest. Time will tell.

For those who have voted leave, based on rational thought, fair play to you, but I will leave it with one video which i believe sums up why a decision like this should never have been made by the general public. The first gentleman sums up what I believe to have been a small portion of the exit voters, not representative of all of them by any means, but of a significant enough percentage to have swayed the vote. People so ****ing ill informed and stupid should not be allowed to influence policy so.

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I saw that earlier, it's depressing, some people really don't deserve a vote.

 

[Leon...]

Word of the week as to be CONTAGION....Love it. I love the way it looks, the way it sounds.....

Big election in France...next May...Le Pen does well and France get the vote to Remain or Leave...See you EU...

The Spanish and the Italian think bollocks to this...It will be down to Mrs Merkel to look after Albania. Serbia , Turkey....on their tod...They'll love that!

Deffo. A fascist France on our doorstep would be good for everyone.

Hopefully, we'll get a full rollback and Germany will go fascist again - worked out well for everyone last time.

 

[City Man]

For those who have voted leave, based on rational thought, fair play to you, but I will leave it with one video which i believe sums up why a decision like this should never have been made by the general public.

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So who should make it?
A think tank?
An intellectual elite?

 

[I'mBetterThanYouIWentTo..]

People so ****ing ill informed and stupid should not be allowed to influence policy so.

I voted remain - but the more nonsense I read along these lines the more embarrassed I feel about the remain voters.

I've heard people claiming pensioners shouldn't be allowed vote, people who didn't vote to remain are ignorant uneducated racists and now don't deserve the right to vote full stop because their outlook on politics or individual concerns don't chime with yours....

Unbelievable.

 

[pierredelafranchesca]

So who should make it?
A think tank?
An intellectual elite?

I think our elected politicians should make decisions of this magnitude. If my principle that idiots like that shouldn't be allowed to contribute to a vote the same holds true for me too. As despite the fact I am educated and consider myself to be intelligent, I am ill informed about all elements of the pros and cons of Exiting the EU, thus it should for me be the responsibility of those who are elected by the public, and paid as MPs to research all the pros and cons and to take a vote of this importance themselves.

 

[pierredelafranchesca]

I voted remain - but the more nonsense I read along these lines the more embarrassed I feel about the remain voters.

I've heard people claiming pensioners shouldn't be allowed vote, people who didn't vote to remain are ignorant uneducated racists and now don't deserve the right to vote full stop because their outlook on politics or individual concerns don't chime with yours....

Unbelievable.

see my above comment, I do not believe that only certain people shouldn't be allowed a vote on this matter, I believe that something so important should be properly researched, not influenced by the bias of media, by our elected officials and for a decision to be made in parliament.

edit - i'll also add that I do not and did not classify all exit voters in this way, as I state in my initial post

 

[DMD]

I saw that earlier, it's depressing, some people really don't deserve a vote.

Apart from the fool that hadn't grasped that we could already do what he was asking, what was so bad about it? I've heard people say they were voting remain because they didn't want Farage, Britain First or the BNP running the country, so they possibly cancel each other out.

Surely it just highlights the failing of the politicians and the media to get an informed message out there.

 

[originallambrettaman]

So much of what's posted all round is misleading, or opinion dressed as fact.

I've seen a few discussions on it in various places where that claim was made, but others contested it.

Add me to the list of contesters, most of those claims are misleading at best, some are complete bollocks.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Apart from the fool that hadn't grasped that we could already do what he was asking, what was so bad about it? I've heard people say they were voting remain because they didn't want Farage, Britain First or the BNP running the country, so they possibly cancel each other out.

Surely it just highlights the failing of the politicians and the media to get an informed message out there.

It's not just that clip. I was watching the news this morning and there were several people explaining their reasoning behind their decisions and I'm surprised many were allowed out unsupervised.

 

[merchantman5]

And the USA would claim that their system is democracy while you ridicule it as inferior

I consider both to be a sham.

My way would be for an informed populace to take direct responsibility for their own governance and not submissively doff their cap's to some supposed elite who as history has shown, act only in their own interests.

That's not very popular I know, but you did ask.

That's called Communism and it has aready been tried and tested and shown to be total bollocks.

 

[Fez]

Why has this pissed off so many people? It was just a social observation based on the people on my own social media newsfeed. At no point did I say it was representative of every voter, in fact I pointed that out in the post. If you've read that and categorised yourself and then taken offence, then **** off. Offence is taken not given, not my problem.

Also, why is it unbelievable that there's a chance people voted with their hearts instead of their head? People were told the EU was bad, so they voted to leave it. I would be willing to bet that on both sides there were people who voted without researching the proper facts.

I don't particularly care which way people voted, it's their right to choose and while the result wasn't the one I've voted for, I'm sure I'll learn to live with it. Donald Trump, Britain First and Nigel Farage all thought it was a good idea to leave so it's a small crumb of comfort that my vote would make these people deeply unhappy.

Go back and re-read what you wrote. You made no distinctions, you just voiced your extremely arrogant opinion and show no respect for anyone except yourself and those mounded in your image. A loud opinion, such as yours, would get short shift in any bar. To defend it compounds your lack of awareness. You asked.

 

[Leon...]

That's called Communism and it has aready been tried and tested and shown to be total bollocks.

Where has communism been tried and tested?

 

[Edelman]

Whoops

You can always go back to watching Love Island or TOWIE if its to taxing.

 

[brownbagtiger]

What we do need to do is make civics & politics part of the National Curriculum. How many people can explain how both this country and the EU runs, how laws are made, what are rights actually are? When you vote, what are you voting for, how does it work? If people don't understand even at the basic level what they are voting for, then we are going to be prey to the most "popular" arguments, and not debate around the facts.

E.g. Could anyone here define the European Commission, the European Council, the European Parliament, The Council of Ministers and the Court of Justice of the European Union? And what the UK's role/contribution is to each of them?