Off Topic BREXIT

I've just seen a rerun of the interview. It seems reasonable to me. We'd have control, it wouldn't be freedom of movement, so we'd drop a fair bit of the maastricht agreements, such as the right to citizenship in other countries, which would leave us in the same position we have if we wanted to go to Oz or the US etc., but there would be options on the movement of labour.

There's still be trade agreements, and we'd still have to contribute financially.

For me, a big issue was control over decision making and the ability to vote against them.

It's not so much the measures, as the dynamic of who "controls" them. It's semantics, as we'd still be jumping through similar hoops, but we'd have a perception of sovereignty, even if in reality it's a bit of an illusion. It would feel like we are considered from a local level upwards, rather than being dictated to by the corporates that drive the EU.

 

Where did he say that?

 

feel free

 

The EU felt they could say we were stuck with it and they thought enough morons were scared of not doing anything to change things. They were wrong.

 

Neither have I and never will.

 

I've voted Conservative at every general election after 1974.

 

i DO NOT want boris johnson as pm though

i wish cameron didn't resign..

 

Cameron had to resign given the referendum result.
I would prefer Gove.

 

Always been at the far left of the political spectrum. Was a student member of the Communist Party for a post graduate year in London in 59/60 but gave it away after considering full membership.
Lucky in a way as a list of Communist Party members were given to embassies by British Intelligence and I would have been refused admission to South Africa and Australia if found to be on such a list. I left for South Africa in 1966.

 

Curiosity got the better of me and I have to ask...

Why would a far left, lapsed communist go to SA in 1966? Just a year after the setting up of the boycott movement?

 

I have started to watch last night's Newsnight. It's very shocking to see how stupid the political classes can be. Jonathan Powell, on our negotiations with the EU, said: "Are we going to be Norway? Are we going to be Canada?" The answers to those questions are: "No, we are going to be the UK."

 

No doubt about that.but Johnson, Farage and Gove are hardly likely to raise the bar though are they,

 

he didn't

he's my Favourite by far

i couldn't imagine a boris johnson pm. it's literally my worst dream..

I'm really worried about the protected status that the eu offered in all sorts of confinements.. workers.enviroment..consumer etc.. i do not want a johnson pm

 

a question i have not seen answered yet..

what does this mean to uk workers going to work in eu countries?

 

Johnson and Gove are both very intelligent.

 

This sort of detail will all be thrashed out in the negotiations over the next two years.

There are 1.22 million already out there.

 

So you think we should have trusted Cameron to negotiate a deal with the EU about our relationship with the EU after we leave although his opinion is he got a good deal before the referendum and we should have stayed in? That is wrong in every way possible.

 

That depends on our future relationship with the EU. The UK has to make a deal with the EU.

 

So this was just one big life lesson for you OAPs to give us young ones? Or you're just trying to justify a selfish dick move that has put up the next generations future up in the air?

 

yes.

in my honest opinion

boris johnson would be a disaster.