Off Topic European Debate Thread

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In, out, or undecided?

  • In

    Votes: 12 27.3%
  • Out

    Votes: 27 61.4%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 5 11.4%

  • Total voters
    44
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So, it is not right to pick such a short window as 4 days as in fact, since the end of April when campaigning began, we are down around 5% from 6,400+. There was a bounce from the lows today but the short to medium term trend will I suspect, be down with all of the uncertainty around....


Yet your picking a short window of 12 hours..

For ****s sake, grow up. (I suspect)

The future of the UK is not about your ****in pension..
 
I sincerely hope you still find it funny by 2017. However I have a feeling this is all going to end in tears. The sad thing is its the kids who will suffer long term, and that is not very funny


Dry your eyes sad boy... the world didn't end..

****s sake I have read some insular **** on social media today.. Whiney, ****in self obsessed, naive, needy ****s.
 
They will suffer the longest but we are ALL affected...

You just can't accept you lost can you..Most of us chose this result (4 cities the size of Hull, ironically)

Most of us are excited about a new future!

Your arguments were rejected.

Honestly big ****in babies all over social media.. its ****in pathetic. The majority on here (27) who voted out would not have behaved the way you have..
 
Tbh it is perhaps the biggest disaster ever to happen for the scientific industry. A large source of grants, employees and cooperation we've been cut loose from.

With universities, the loss of grants could see many science departments struggle and close.

We already have 5x the amount of psychology graduates than physics graduates a year.

Absolute madness....
 
Countries will trade with us, people will still migrate, Germany already pushing a paper through. USA already spoken up too.

The EU has not moved in the last 10 years, if anything it's been holding us back, we were in most expensive, over-regulated, bureaucratic, wasteful, self-interested, anti-democratic, dilatory, outdated, pointless club in the world.
 
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We have just saved ourselves from a being dragged into a european superstate and people are moaning.
London wanting special treatment from the EU, pathetic. The majority has spoken now get on with it.
 
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If they dont like it move to Scotland and have another go at voting in.
Just watch the contagion as people in the member states ask for their own referendums.
 
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So the Luvvies are worried.
WTF would they have been like in 1939

F F S grow some and accept the will of the majority.

Well first off. From 1939, I was obliged to wait nearly seven years for my dad to come home from fighting the Japanese in Burma, so that I could actually meet him for the very first time in 1946.

More to the point of the thread. Of course we accept the will of the majority. It's done and dusted.
BUT before you get too far in front of yourself, just consider how many of the 1.25 million majority misused their vote by voting for exit as an anti-establishment protest for the UK. It's was well reported that it was the cause of some of the unpredicted results.

Anyway one of my main concerns about exit was that I felt that France would abandon the Le Touquet agreement which will allow the occupants of the Jungle in Calais free access to travel to the East Coast of Britain. This looks already on the cards!

I believe it was who wiz put up a post suggesting that Germany are suggesting a special arrangement for the UK. Why the **** didn't they start to make sensible noises before we were obliged to kick them into touch.

I felt that that the rumbling opinions of the malcontents in Germany, France and Holland might make our views within the EU become more acceptable. It appears that our exit may well accelerate those changes to the EU which could mean that it encompasses more of a free trade basis than the current over politicised system, which of course, is what we agreed to join in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dutch started to make their feelings known fairly soon.

So let's hope that we go onwards and upwards. Good Luck to all!


ps. Oh! and by the way. That's another chunk knocked off my pension!!!
 
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An 'out' voter explains the rational behind her decision in this critical vote:
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Much as though this does look very much staged, this comes back to my point yesterday about Joey Essex and the TOWIE brigade. This is the reason why we left the EU, because they let some people who had no idea what the **** they were voting for, participate..

Note:- that is NOT saying that people that voted out are uneducated, there is a big difference...
 
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Day One:

- One of the major credit reference agencies (Moody's) has reduced the UK's credit rating and it is only a matter of time before the other one (Standard & Poor's) follows

Look, there he goes scaremongering again...!!! - oh no wait, that actually happened.

So what...? - congratulations Leave, you have put the cost of everyone's mortgage up on the very first day (I note the articles yesterday about interest rates going DOWN, not sure how that works as it is going to cost the UK more to borrow money)

- much jubilation around about having removed the first block leading to the downfall of the EU

REALLY, are people really that stupid...? Anyone read the story about Sampson in the temple...? If not, probably a good place to start as the whole world is financially inter-connected now and you would gain a broad understanding of what happens on the collapse of the EU.
 
Much as though tis looks very much staged, this comes back to my point yesterday about Joey Essex and the TOWIE brigade. This is the reason why we left the EU, because they let some people who had no idea what the **** they were voting for, participate..

Note:- that is NOT saying that people that voted out are uneducated, there is a big difference...
At the end of the video you can subscribe to see more videos of her, so like you I think it's staged. But yes you are correct that you have some stupid people voting out, they interviewed some in the Valleys (only get Welsh BBC or ITV) that did not realise that Labour was in so they believed they was standing against the Tories.
But on the flip side, you will have stupid people voting in as well, my sister in law being one listening to my brothers views and not thinking for herself.
The remain vote was lost IMO by Cameron in the last week, during question time he backtracked on to many things to know what to believe. Also Corbyn going at it all half hearted did not help the remain cause.
But at the end of the day it's done and it's what we are left with so we all need to unite and get behind it. Nicola Sturgeon ranting about Scotland having a new referendum just to get back in, is not being honest with the Scottish voters as they will need to be voted in by the other members. Will the EU allow that? No because they will need to have companies British run divided into cities across England and Scotland plus borders and the likes built between Scotland and England which you know ain't going to happen. So ole Fishy face is not being totally honest, I believe she wants to be the Queen of the Scots.
When if truth be told if the Scots voted labour they would be in and Tories out and then no referendum.
 
I didn't vote for a Tory government, but I accepted it as part of a democratic process.

There are countless individuals who voted remain who think that entire swathes of society should not be allowed to vote. That is bigotry.

You may think you are better than the average person, but you definitely are not.
 
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