Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

[afcftw]

This is pointless! They are a whisker short of a majority. They are by far the largest party! They voted overwhelmingly to remain. They were denied by England yet again.

Work it out!....

Being a whisker away from a majority is still short of a majority and the rest of the parliament don't support a referendum, it's pretty simple really.. They can be the largest party all they like, it doesn't make a difference.

I've literally spelt out to you why it isn't going to happen, I've listed multiple huge hurdles for them and you just go "nope, it'll happen".

As a Scottish/English hybrid type of Brit I've taken a keen interest in the Scottish referendum and the state of politics in Scotland and unless you've got something more than Sturgeons sabre rattling to go on I'm going to stick with my own facts and statistics

 

[paultheplug]

Do any of the other parties in Scotland want to stay in the EU. They would surely join the SNP in the call for a new referendum

 

[NSIS]

Being a whisker away from a majority is still short of a majority and the rest of the parliament don't support a referendum, it's pretty simple really.. They can be the largest party all they like, it doesn't make a difference.

I've literally spelt out to you why it isn't going to happen, I've listed multiple huge hurdles for them and you just go "nope, it'll happen".

As a Scottish/English hybrid type of Brit I've taken a keen interest in the Scottish referendum and the state of politics in Scotland and unless you've got something more than Sturgeons sabre rattling to go on I'm going to stick with my own facts and statistics

Yeah, whatever!! Just watch what happens next! Scotland first, Then, Northern Ireland - already big queues for Irish passports. Wales - urgently demanding a change in the Barnett agreement.

You don't seem to appreciate how badly the Scots, especially, have taken this result. Support for Sturgeon has surged.

It WILL happen, whatever your 'stats' say....

 

[DMD]

It's Friday!! The markets have gone flat - that's position wise, for the weekend. As the markets are not open at weekends, they run no risk of not being on board any major events. They will assess what's been said and done over this weekend and the fun will start again on Monday....

Bloody ell eeyore, so far, other than the early volatile market, that was expected by most, I don't think you've managed to get one single prediction right so far, and lord knows you've hurled a fair few out there. So I'll pat you on the head and say, yep, pretty much as has been said all along, a few short term variables, but not the doomsday scenario you keep predicting.

Keep tossing out the dark clouds, law of averages says one will drop rain and catch us without a brolly. Me? I'll just keep enjoying life.

 

[Chief]

One of the worst things watching the news is folk in the north east being interviewed saying they are forgotten and disenfranchised from the south and government.

So, it was a protest vote. Against the wrong people. How is leaving the EU supposed to connect them to the government?

 

[NSIS]

Bloody ell eeyore, so far, other than the early volatile market, that was expected by most, I don't think you've managed to get one single prediction right so far, and lord knows you've hurled a fair few out there. So I'll pat you on the head and say, yep, pretty much as has been said all along, a few short term variables, but not the doomsday scenario you keep predicting.

Keep tossing out the dark clouds, law of averages says one will drop rain and catch us without a brolly. Me? I'll just keep enjoying life.

And what have you got right?? Yes, the turkeys have voted for their early Xmas. Now they're going to get it.

You understand SFA about how markets work! I've tried to explain it to you, but you just come back with more infantile crap.

The markets will reassess on Monday, for the reasons I've given....you seem to think that if it doesn't all happen on the first day, that it won't happen at all. You couldn't be more wrong....

 

[DMD]

And what have you got right?? Yes, the turkeys have voted for their early Xmas. Now they're going to get it.

You understand SFA about how markets work! I've tried to explain it to you, but you just come back with more infantile crap.

The markets will reassess on Monday, for the reasons I've given....you seem to think that if it doesn't all happen on the first day, that it won't happen at all. You couldn't be more wrong....

You are funny.

Who said it's limited to the first day? You seem to think if you repeat the same **** often enough, it'll become the truth.

 

[NSIS]

You are funny.

Who said it's limited to the first day? You seem to think if you repeat the same **** often enough, it'll become the truth.

Funny that., I was thinking exactly the same about you

I worked in those markets and have forgotten more than you'll ever know about them. This is not over by a long way yet!...

 

[Cornish Clive]

One of the worst things watching the news is folk in the north east being interviewed saying they are forgotten and disenfranchised from the south and government.

So, it was a protest vote. Against the wrong people. How is leaving the EU supposed to connect them to the government?

Someone on this thread said "i'm glad we won". We? The brexit voters haven't won the lottery, and they aren't going to receive special treatment for voting leave.

There will be many individuals, families, that voted leave, that are going to suffer, fall into deeper poverty, while many voters that went with remain, may discover they actually prosper from brexit.

But whats telling, is the ones who decided on Leave (protest vote), think they have "won".

 

[DMD]

Funny that., I was thinking exactly the same about you

I worked in those markets and have forgotten more than you'll ever know about them. This is not over by a long way yet!...

Perhaps if instead, you'd have remembered a bit more, you wouldn't be making such an arse of yourself now. Of course it's not over, it's not all linked to the referendum either.

 

[NSIS]

Perhaps if instead, you'd have remembered a bit more, you wouldn't be making such an arse of yourself now. Of course it's not over, it's not all linked to the referendum either.

Only a moron, like you, would come back with puerile rubbish like that.

I remember more than you'll ever know! What happens next will unravel over the next few months, not today!...

 

[DMD]

Someone on this thread said "i'm glad we won". We? The brexit voters haven't won the lottery, and they aren't going to receive special treatment for voting leave.

There will be many individuals, families, that voted leave, that are going to suffer, fall into deeper poverty, while many voters that went with remain, may discover they actually prosper from brexit.

But whats telling, is the ones who decided on Leave (protest vote), think they have "won".

There were many that have suffered as a consequence of being IN the EU too and over a longer period of time. I reckon the scales of justice would weigh a damn site more towards them, yet the sympathy and support for those suffering due to any recent changes, will be far more forthcoming.

 

[afcftw]

Yeah, whatever!! Just watch what happens next! Scotland first, Then, Northern Ireland - already big queues for Irish passports. Wales - urgently demanding a change in the Barnett agreement.

You don't seem to appreciate how badly the Scots, especially, have taken this result. Support for Sturgeon has surged.

It WILL happen, whatever your 'stats' say....

Nonsense, no-one is leaving the UK.

I'm sure they have taken it badly, but that doesn't mean all of a sudden they are going to cut there nose off to spite there face.

 

[DMD]

Only a moron, like you, would come back with puerile rubbish like that.

I remember more than you'll ever know! What happens next will unravel over the next few months, not today!...

As I said, repeating a thing doesn't make it any more accurate.

 

[NSIS]

As I said, repeating a thing doesn't make it any more accurate.

You're an idiot. Goodnight!...

 

[NSIS]

Nonsense, no-one is leaving the UK.

I'm sure they have taken it badly, but that doesn't mean all of a sudden they are going to cut there nose off to spite there face.

Scotland will get their referendum. And Sturgeon will win....

 

[afcftw]

Scotland will get their referendum. And Sturgeon will win....

Nope, still not correct

 

[NSIS]

Nope, still not correct

Yep, it is...

And, as I thought, no amicable divorce. The 'fun' starts here....


http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.726978

 

[DMD]

You're an idiot. Goodnight!...

You're a one trick pony, who hasn't a clue what the issues behind the outcome are.

Even one of the leave spokes people got nearer to it part way through the referendum, when it occurred to him that they'd pitched their case to tell people that are already struggling financially and feeling out of the system, that they could miss out on the financial benefits of the EU, that they don't believe they've got anyway.

The vote shows that there's a fair percentage of people that felt they got less than sod all from the process anyway, so threats of losing that sod all were not all that compelling.

Telling people that already don't feel that their own Government knows they exist, that the foreign government in the EU 100's of miles away could ignore them, is never really going to be a vote winner.

A massive positive from the result is that a lot of politicians from all sides have had the scales taken off their eyes, and are starting to see that most people in the UK don't give a **** about London, it's just the place that they feel sucks national funding dry.

 

[afcftw]

Yep, it is...

And, as I thought, no amicable divorce. The 'fun' starts here....


http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.726978

Juncker has asked us to start negotiations immediately which we are under no legal obligation to do. If you read the quotes of his he actually says they will take a reasonable approach to the negotiations and he is a prize twat, so we can expect others to be even more reasonable. There's also been even more promising quotes today from across Europe about doing a deal with us in various articles I've read.

Edit: oh, and no it isn't.