Off Topic BREXIT

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How will you be voting?

  • Remain

    Votes: 89 46.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 104 53.9%

  • Total voters
    193
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You and your generation voted, a welcome first step but it is only a first step. If you want a future voting isn't enough. You need to decide what you want and organise to get it. You have to put up with the setbacks and carry on through the bad times as well as the good. That would be true whether we are in the EU or out of it. I've seen rights my parents and grandparents politically fought for taken away from young people over the past four decades and your generation have more or less accepted it.

How many demonstrations in Hull have been organised for decent and affordable housing for young people? Same for jobs? What about the right to get benefits if you're 16 and unemployed? Same for zero hour contracts and apprenticeships with a guaranteed job at the end of it. If you want a decent world you have to organise and campaign for it, not just vote. If you do that you may find people you can elect that will stand up for your future and mean it. Most of them, hopefully, will be a lot younger than me.

They are going to have to get the younger generation off their arses and off social media. At the moment it is too much effort to put a cross on a bit of paper for a lot of them, 43% of young people didn't vote in this referendum apparently.
 
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Ah thats right, I'm forgetting about the famous battle of the NHS in which thousands of brave souls lost their lives fighting for their cause.

Similarly all those heroes on the frontline that made the ultimate sacrifice to ensure others had the right to free university.

What a valiant and brave generation, you must be so proud.

There was an enormous parliamentary struggle to create the NHS that lasted 2 years. The demand for change came from the millions of workers who fought in the Second World War and said no return to the 1930s. So whilst it is true no-one died in the battle to create the NHS, its also true it was won as a result of the sacrifice of hundreds and thousands of British soldiers and civilians killed during the war.

The same is true for free education.
 
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I'm not going to discuss it with you as we don't agree. Last time I heard someone come out with something like that was on a school playground. Sorry if bringing a bit of reality into your life causes so much distress.

If your opinion mattered to me then I might, but honestly it doesn't so I have no desire to waste hours of my life trying to change your mind, sorry if thats blunt but I have better things to be doing.
 
They are going to have to get the younger generation off their arses and off social media. At the moment it is too much effort to put a cross on a bit of paper for a lot of them, 43% of young people didn't vote in this referendum apparently.

There's not much we agree on politically but this is one of them. If you want a better world you have to fight for it. I do think social media as a part to play in. A lot easier to organise things then the old land line telephone.
 
If your opinion mattered to me then I might, but honestly it doesn't so I have no desire to waste hours of my life trying to change your mind, sorry if thats blunt but I have better things to be doing.

Do you think your opinion matters to anyone? But you still offer it.
Bet you were always the one who took his bat and ball home.
 
Where's that from, I can't find any numbers on young voter turnout anywhere?

It was someone quoting results of a poll on radio. Of course you can decry it but then you would have to do the same with any other similar ones.Like the claims it was older voters which ensured a Leave victory.

According to Angus Young the only ward in Hull which voted for Remain was The Avenues. No surprise there in some ways.
After the landslide Leave vote in Hull, contrary to what all the local Labour MPs and councillors wanted, let's hope the voters show the same independence of thought in the next local and general,elections.
 
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There's not much we agree on politically but this is one of them. If you want a better world you have to fight for it. I do think social media as a part to play in. A lot easier to organise things then the old land line telephone.
True, Obadiah. But at least we have the intellectual capacity to engage in discussions on these, and other matters, as we have done for a few years now. Unlike the likes of AirlieTiger.
 
True, Obadiah. But at least we have the intellectual capacity to engage in discussions on these, and other matters, as we have done for a few years now. Unlike the likes of AirlieTiger.

<laugh> When I'm retired and have nothing else to do than waste my time arguing with strangers on the internet we can 'engage in discussions' until the cows come home, until then I'm off to enjoy life.
 
Everyones opinion will matter to someone, you're just taking offence because yours doesn't particularly matter to me.

I couldn't give a stuff what you think about my opinion or anything else. However, you shouldn't be on a forum where people can reply as discussion obviously stretches your limited intellectual capabilities. And, discussion, debate and argument is actually the reason for a forum.
 
<laugh> When I'm retired and have nothing else to do than waste my time arguing with strangers on the internet we can 'engage in discussions' until the cows come home, until then I'm off to enjoy life.

You aren't so busy enjoying life that you don't feel the need to come on here and argue with strangers. But, having no sense of irony you wouldn't be aware of this.
 
<laugh> When I'm retired and have nothing else to do than waste my time arguing with strangers on the internet we can 'engage in discussions' until the cows come home, until then I'm off to enjoy life.

Like I said if you want a better life you have to fight for it.

Talking to people on the internet is little different than writing and receiving letters, talking on the phone or moaning about the state of the world in the pub until its time to go home.
 
I'm out but youth is our future and in a more protectionist UK with proper immigration controls post-brexit governments need to do more for young people, in education, jobs and housing.
 
I'm out but youth is our future and in a more protectionist UK with proper immigration controls post-brexit governments need to do more for young people, in education, jobs and housing.
the government could have done all of this before, including training more doctors & nurses & teachers and building hospitals and schools to cope with the increase in population. many of the things people are complaining about weren't the fault of the EU, they were the (in)actions of our own government - who were happy for other parties to take the blame if it took the pressure of them.

As it is, nothing will change, so who are you going to blame in 5 years time when it still takes 3 weeks to get a GP appointment and the kids are taught by TAs as there aren't enough teachers..
 
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