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LEAVE OR REMAIN

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by saintkitch, Jun 23, 2016.

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LEAVE OR REMAIN

Poll closed Jun 26, 2016.
  1. LEAVE

    33 vote(s)
    30.3%
  2. REMAIN

    76 vote(s)
    69.7%
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  1. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    Cameron could leave and call a conservative leadership vote, or announce a successor or he could announce a new election, however with fixed term governments it isn't quite that straight forward.
     
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  3. Plastique Bertrand

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    Cameron was on TV the other day cockahoop about the almost completed trade agreement, which he said had been 7 years in the making, with Cananda. Which Trudeau is probably hurridly shredding as we speak
     
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    Boston voted 76%. Boston has been overloaded with Eu migrants. Don't believe the figures the papers say about 15%. That is how many live in Boston. The agencies have static caravans on the edge of the farmer's fields and of course they all flood into Boston for nightlife and such. Boston is a pot simmering close to boiling point.

    As for what we need to happen I agree we need to steady the ship and keep things as they are however there has to be legislation and quick to say that EU citizens that arrive before (probably today) and have a job have indefinite right to remain and anyone else that arrives after this date will have to go the Visa work permit route after the 2 years or whatever is up because there will now be a surge over the next 2 years to get in before we leave. People aren't going to accept a million extra a year. Its been simmering for a while already up here.
     
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    It hasn't had any effect up here in the North. People up here have been waiting for this moment.
     
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    Yep.

    But as one of the genuine floaters a few weeks ago, my remain vote was purely based on the begging of my children, not the (cough) well thought out, mature arguments of either side. If it ends up as close as it looks it might politicians will scamper around to blame others, while looking steadfastly away from themselves.

    I see Farage has a stiffy.
     
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  7. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    If Cameron calls an election it will be a spiteful payback. He lied to get the job, then turned europhile. If he is a conservative (which most conservatives don't think he is) he will pass the mantle and bow out gracefully. If not he will prove he was Blair MkII as we all expect.

    He definitely shouldn't call a GE while UKIP have their little moment i.e. now. Need to wait and let people cool down, realise they got what they want and vote for a normal party.
     
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    I'm going mail the final vote map along with a Toblerone to Juncker, we should be allowed honorary membership up here.
     
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    Tbh I feel like if he calls an election this week he is a massive ****. I don't care if he doesn't want to be known as the PM who took us out of the EU or what his parties internal politics are saying, he needs to appear tomorrow as a strong leader with a plan, ready to take Britain to the top. We simply cannot look weak and unsure of what we are doing right now.
     
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    Birmingham has supposedly opted for leave by around 3,500 votes. And that, is the final nail.
     
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    I don't see how or why Cameron could call a quick election. I could see a situation where the Cabinet agree to start the process of repealing the Fixed Term Parliaments Act so an election can be called once a Conservative leadership contest is completed but that's about it.
     
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    That's why I said he couldn't just call an election <ok>

    Though I believe there is possibly an emergency clause in the act somewhere that is possibly able to be enacted? I'd have to look further into it, but otherwise as you say it would require the act to be repealed.
     
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    South Holland 74% Rural Lincolnshire has been heavily leave.
     
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    I really don't want Cameron to go. Can't believe I'm saying that.
     
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    The middle ground where votes were expected to be about 50-50 have leant towards leave which is where the vote is really being won currently.
     
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    Steve Hilton is a ****ing ****er.
     
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    That's the practical reason, there's also the question of what the point would be of Cameron leading the party into ANOTHER election.
     
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