Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

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Tobes said:
Our predictions are based on the market realities and my prime stake holder is a stock broker.....,

The reality is that a Brexit vote would cripplle our economy in the short to medium term.

Trust me - economically we're ****ed for 2-5 years if this goes the wrong way
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Fair enough, I don't know what your business is or how reliant it is on various factors to do with currency exchange rates and Europe.

Short term most definitely the economy will take a hit, I don't think anyone has denied that.

As for being economically ****ed for 2-5 years, for the first two years minimum we will be guaranteed normal access to the common market based on current EU legislation whilst negotiating our exit at which point it will depend what deal we have done. That will of course not change how uncertainty effects the economy within those first two years in terms of currency value, investment levels etc...
 
Interesting that Leave numbers seem higher than expected, this might be closer than I was thinking earlier in the night!
 
I'm currently on business in the EU, if this goes the way of the idiots then I'm selling up and ****ing off the minute I land back on Uk soil at the weekend

Morons being given a decision they don't understand the reality of. Bye Uk xx
 
Another surprise result for Leave with a lead in Swansea which was expected to be remain.
Remain beat expectation in Lambeth in London with huge lead.
Wandsworth in London announced just now and it's big margins for Remain, again above expected.

Results might be levelling out a bit. It's going to be close.
 
Cornish Clive said:
All the initial Welsh results in the EU referendum have come in for Leave.

The first Scottish results have been declared in the EU referendum - with every council area so far voting in favour of Remain.
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Yeah Wales has ended up being more leave voters than expected throughout the campaign where it was thought Wales was more remain. Whereas Scotland have voted mainly in favour of remain as expected and although voter numbers aren't as high as in the Scottish referendum they are generally high turnouts.
 
Barking and Dagenham just announced in London as leave, but it's more like Essex than London in reality
 
afcftw said:
Yeah Wales has ended up being more leave voters than expected throughout the campaign where it was thought Wales was more remain. Whereas Scotland have voted mainly in favour of remain as expected and although voter numbers aren't as high as in the Scottish referendum they are generally high turnouts.
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Brexit and Scotland to announce a referendum for Independence? Cameron to resign and Boris Johnson as Prime minster. <yikes>
 
Cornish Clive said:
Brexit and Scotland to announce a referendum for Independence? Cameron to resign and Boris Johnson as Prime minster. <yikes>
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Scotland won't go for independence even if Leave wins, their previous referendum was lost based on not managing to convince the Scottish population of the economic stability of an exit and their economic plan hinged heavily on high, stable Oil prices. Since then oil prices have been very volatile and have dropped to below half those levels and as such the economics of a Scottish exit from the UK wouldn't currently work. So even if they managed to get a referendum (which is unlikely given the SNP don't have enough SMPs to push it through the Scottish Parliament and the U.K. Government is unlikely to give Scotland another referendum so soon after the last one) it is very unlikely to succeed.
 
I have to say I don't think Labour have really been at the forefront of the campaign to Remain despite it supposedly being the stance of the party. It's been mainly the two sides of the tories on show which won't have done anything to convince voters in the north. And Jeremy Corbyn has very much taken a back seat in everything, refused to share a platform with Cameron and even spoken about how the remain camp has exaggerated claims about the negative effects. Was that his eurosceptic side showing through? He has always been a eurosceptic and to me it feels like he hasn't wanted to be a big part of the fight to stay in the EU because he just doesn't believe in it that much. Thoughts?
 
afcftw said:
Scotland won't go for independence even if Leave wins, their previous referendum was lost based on not managing to convince the Scottish population of the economic stability of an exit and their economic plan hinged heavily on high, stable Oil prices. Since then oil prices have been very volatile and have dropped to below half those levels and as such the economics of a Scottish exit from the UK wouldn't currently work. So even if they managed to get a referendum (which is unlikely given the SNP don't have enough SMPs to push it through the Scottish Parliament and the U.K. Government is unlikely to give Scotland another referendum so soon after the last one) it is very unlikely to succeed.
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I'm more worried about Boris Johnson as prime minister.

But so far:

Scotland - Remain
Wales - Leave
North east - Leave

Increased turn out from general election, with more working class/council estate voters and unlike the general election its the total votes which count.

I'm expecting Brexit and mayhem after breakfast, with Farage's smug face plastered everywhere.
 
Cornish Clive said:
I'm more worried about Boris Johnson as prime minister.

But so far:

Scotland - Remain
Wales - Leave
North east - Leave

Increased turn out from general election, with more working class/council estate voters and unlike the general election its the total votes which count.

I'm expecting Brexit and mayhem after breakfast, with Farage's smug face plastered everywhere.
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Despite the numbers being better for Leave than expected in the announcements so far I'm still expecting a narrow win for Remain overall.
 
Liverpool votes to remain.

Still quite surprisingly close with 103/382 declared
 
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If Remain wins then I think Scotland will actually feel strongly that they have a real impact on UK politics and the union may be stronger for it.
 
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Cornish Clive said:
I'm more worried about Boris Johnson as prime minister.

But so far:

Scotland - Remain
Wales - Leave
North east - Leave

Increased turn out from general election, with more working class/council estate voters and unlike the general election its the total votes which count.

I'm expecting Brexit and mayhem after breakfast, with Farage's smug face plastered everywhere.
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The idiot factor and the fact that Cofbyn is a ****ing inert twat
 
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