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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by bcfcredandwhite, May 6, 2016.

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In, out, or undecided?

  1. In

    12 vote(s)
    27.3%

  2. Out

    27 vote(s)
    61.4%

  3. Undecided

    5 vote(s)
    11.4%
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  1. Bluebaldee

    Bluebaldee Total Git

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    Cliftonville have you even read the abstract of the document you posted?

    It states that "We find that the immigrant to native ratio has a small negative impact on average wages".

    Not some crushingly colossal negative impact. And let's face it, most of that would be in the unskilled sector which is underpinned by the minimum wage anyway, one that's rising faster in relative terms than most other sectors. And of course the research you posted is just one piece and it's largely at odds with the two pieces I posted.

    The Leave campaign has vastly overegged the 'immigrants are driving down British wages' pudding - in the unskilled sector there's a small negative impact, but this is mitigated by the minimum wage and its growth. Try again.
     
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  2. Bluebaldee

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    TTIP will not mean the end of the NHS. The EU negotiating position explicitly lays out that state-run healthcare systems (which most are in Europe) are to be protected - and they've stated they'll walk away from TTIP if they can't get agreement on this. The scaremongering Leave campaign don't want you to know this.

    Read this:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ivingston_from_Cecilia_Malmstr_m_NHS_TTIP.pdf
     
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  3. Captain Jack Sparrow

    Captain Jack Sparrow Pirate
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    Today I was more sceptical than normal about putting a cross in the box using a pencil that is provided. So I used my own pen instead :)
     
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  4. Bluebaldee

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    I apologise Wiz, but I won't be called a 'know nothing' when I've spent the last three months carefully researching the issues and I go out of my way to reference and source any points I make.

    Happy to debate this important subject, but not so happy to receive baseless insults - that's what football's for!
     
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  5. Red Robin

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    and all my family did,no pencil usage.
     
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  6. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    The debate is over, the votes are being counted, if this thread is taken into a further bout of argument and people trying to prove points I will close it, regardless..

    Let us have a good conversation and await the result, I will personally congratulate the side that wins and accept the majority decision..
     
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  7. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    The UK Trade Minister Lord Livingston has admitted that talks about the NHS were still on the table.

    Makes no difference now Baldee. All votes are in <ok>

    Lets just all get along now yeah <smooch>.
     
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  8. Bluebaldee

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  9. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    No need for that mate, I thank you for your courtesy and rest assured I know (excuse my common background) you are a brainy bloke but so are some of the people on the other side, let us just enjoy or suffer the misery of the night..
     
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  10. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    Im 1 of them aint I wiz? ;)
     
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    Get along with a Gashead ? <yikes>
     
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  12. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    You are one of what, I've got to be careful....:rolleyes:
     
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  13. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    You said... "you are a brainy bloke but so are some of the people on the other side"

    And I am 1 of of them yeah??? :)
     
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  14. wizered

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    I just don't know, are you saying you are on the other side.....:confused:
     
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  15. Bluebaldee

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    I'm just glad it's over. It's been one of the most divisive episodes of recent British history. Part of the reason I've not been on Not606 much for the past few months is that I've been on political/discussion forums arguing with complete strangers, and closed Facebook groups arguing with fellow Cam and Dursleyites about this bloody Referendum.

    Now it's over I'll be back talking about football and discussing our teams' relative ****ness!
     
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  16. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    City's Joe Bryan couldnt vote today!

    He remembered that didnt know how to put a cross in the box ;)
     
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  17. Bluebaldee

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    No. You are a well-established cretin. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  18. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    <grr> just say im brainy damn it <grr>

    <laugh>
     
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  19. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    He remembered how to score a goal and put you out though.....He became a "gasbuster"
     
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  20. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    <laugh><ok>
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