Wow... talk about sticking it to your own side. Any election will be an absolute landslide and frankly.... that kind of scummy rhetoric hurts the leave side greatly. Irrespective of view on europe surely at least some leave voters fell completely alien to these guys on their side.
Talking of crypto-Nazis, here's Katie: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Jo-Cox-private-martyr-beneath-contempt.html Reckons she's never seen anything that is so beneath contempt. So there's no mirrors in her house then.
Best bit is her saying how she's sure they'll find a way to keep this story going when the rest of 'us' want to give her family time to grieve... Slightly ironic given she's writing a bloody article on it!
Note how she talks herself in knots - she's 'right' to link Orlando to Islamic terror because he shouted Allah Akbhar (did he? Not denying he posted his own allegiance to ISIS though) even though he had a history of mental illness, but everyone is wrong to link Miar to the right as he, er, has a history of mental illness, therefore his statement in about about 'death to traitors' should be disregarded. In fact, it's sub-judice, so stop talking about it - it's unfair, it's affecting Brexit!
I've not read the last few pages but does anybody else find it desperately funny that the slogan for Brexiters is "Lets put power back into the hands of our elected MPs" only for one of their extremists to kill an elected MP because she happened to disagree with their view. So much for that bollox That there sums up the hypocrisy and facade of their whole campaign. We see it elsewhere as well ofcourse. For example... foreigners are here stealing our jobs.... while at the same time being a bunch of spongers living off tax-payers benefits. There's no bloody rhyme or reason to their arguments.
I just go by what I read but I'm no expert on the intricate economical effects of Brexit. There's some degree of heated 'debate' going on between the Out and In supporters on the PL board. Anyone who can add some credible arguments on the economical issues would be welcome. www.not606.com/threads/eu-deabte-which-way-are-you-voting.330913
I don't need to trebs. Jeremy-clarkson Clarkson said his gut says stay. As his gut is big... well I think we should listen
If there was one person I thought would be for Brexit, it would've been Clarkson I actually feel dirty now, for holding the same opinion as him.
Don't ya just What that guy is on the side of right it must be bleeding obvious. All the advocates for out are suckering people by calling eu font of all evil when in fact that are fascist racist scum. Boris Johnson for pm? **** that ****. Clarkson... **** sake I bet evans is voting leave.
Maybe you are just like most remainers and believe there is only one argument, immigration. Most others look at all aspects and make a decision on the whole
Just seems to me that remain people shout "immigration" a lot louder and more often than the exit people do. It makes me wonder how many people are scared of voting exit for fear of being branded racist or little Englanders. This is a common theme these days.
Date Leave % Remain % Don't know % Method 18 Jun 2016 42 45 13 Survation phone 17 Jun 2016 44 44 12 Opinium online 17 Jun 2016 43 44 13 YouGov online 16 Jun 2016 44 42 14 YouGov online 15 Jun 2016 51 41 9 BMG online 15 Jun 2016 43 46 11 BMG phone 15 Jun 2016 45 42 13 Survation phone 14 Jun 2016 49 43 8 Ipsos Mori phone
The vote is secret, remember? When you think about it, the only issue Brexit has an advantage on in the minds of people is immigration. Corbyn and the Labour party nor cameron have still not worked out how to respond to the question: "If you stay in the EU, what is the highest number of EU migrants you will accept as reasonable? So it was rather silly of UKIP and the Vote Leave side to try to outdo each other like they did last week. The ball was on its way into the net, the GK beaten. In their fight to be seen to be the scorer, they seem to have kicked the ball into the side netting. With this Breaking Point poster and the Boris amnesty they give the impression of really desperate people clutching at straws.
To me a clear move towards Remain over the weekend. Could be the turning point. On Thursday, Leave looked unstoppable and I had resigned myself to a catastrophic decision.
If this trend continues...I wonder who will be more grateful about Jo Cox death...the right wing nut cases who stirred the hate that killed her or the Remain leadership for the turn around?
No one should dance on the grave of Jo Cox, because some lunatics may like to settle the score. This is a peaceful country, I can only hope that the killer of Jo Cox is executed to be a deterrent. Anyway, the killer never argue not to be the killer. The question of mistake is ruled out.
I think it was more a deceleration of the vote towards leave. There's many parallels here, including the polls, to the Scottish Independence referendum, but the difference was that only one or two polls had put the Nats ahead, and then only a fortnight before the vote. The last weekend before the vote had all the polls showing in ahead or level. For just shy of a month now the polls have steadily shown Brexit @ the 45% mark, with Remain @ 40/41. That's pretty solid. Remain are looking for practically all undecideds to vote and to vote for them, and also some Brexits to defect. Brexit just has to get it's vote out. Went to a Toby Carvery for Father's Day with my daughter, her boyf, the ex and her feller and the ex father in law yesterday. Only me and the daughter voting Remain. The ex (and she's a nurse) says she doesn't believe the £350m nonsense (but only after the daughter had demolished it before her eyes) but wants 'control of our borders'. Her feller has already voted and reads the Sun - lost cause. Doesn't even know the difference between EU immigration and non-EU immigration - reckons that poster of Farage prove that if they're in Slovenia (he originally thought it was in France) means they're now in the EU and can come here. Her father just kept saying 'There's too many in our schools and taking up the NHS'. All three thought the economy might 'dip a little', but would pick up when we signed deals with Commonwealth countries like Australia and Canada. I hope Australia know that the Brexiters seem to be under the impression that they're going to buy everything that we produce from July onwards. 55/45 to Brexit. Sad, but that's my prediction.
this is all anyone needs to know. Are you going to vote for this scumbag... thats what a leave vote is for. there are 65 million displaced people globally through war and terror.... WAR AND TERROR not to come to this island for benefits. So think hard. This campaign has shown up the real face of racism and intolerance. end of.... irrespective of the result as there are people not actually interested in immigration voting leave as they just don't like brussels..... the REAL isuse is this uprising of what can only be called fascism .
