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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Good post.

    Sturgeon representing "remain" is a complete joke.
    She is passionate about Scotland going it alone but somehow tries to justify supporting the UK staying in the EU. Hypocritical in the extreme!
     
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  2. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Not really. It is possible to be an independent country in an agreement to cooperate with other countries.

    Now, walk the dog before the football or watch Andrew Neill v Farage, which could be bloody...nah, footy wins.
     
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  3. TootingExcess

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    We need a good perform from Roy and the boys in the euros, a shight performance could get the population restless and vote Leave. A good performance, we feel good and we stick with the status quo.

    Harold Wilson never forgave Peter Bonetti
     
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  4. sb_73

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    Neill destroying Farage on trade.
     
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  5. cor blymie

    cor blymie Well-Known Member

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    after Neill's grilling of Osborne, I thought he gave Nigel an easy ride
     
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  6. Stroller

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    Neil would destroy any of them. IBS next week - shame it's not BJ.
     
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  7. Stroller

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    Ten point lead for Brexit in a poll for the Independent. Bookies have reacted to this one.
     
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  8. sb_73

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    There was a bloke on his programme last night (it really pisses me off that they put that on after QT), didn't catch who he was, who said something very interesting - we are being given a binary choice over something which is patently a non binary issue. This has given the campaigns the opportunity to over simplify and lie to their hearts content.
     
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    Has to be a simple yes or no, you can't give the electorate a menu. As for the lying you can always tell, their lips move...
     
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  10. rangercol

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    Except what you describe is nothing like the EU as well you know.
    Sturgeon is desperate for Scotland to make a go of it on their own, yet she insists that the UK shouldn't be independent.
    Ridiculous.
     
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  11. TootingExcess

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    I'm convinced Brexit will happen now, spoken to too many people who want to "stop Muslim immigration" and spend the 5 billion we send Everyday to the EU, on the NHS.

    A lot aren't interested in anything post-Brexit cos its shight for them now.
     
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    I thought Farage articulated very well on Question Time and it was sad that Izzard was such a know nothing twat. When it comes to Europe i listen to Farage because unlike most of the others he's actually has been there debating and fighting for the UK. He gets dismissed as a racist yet over the years he has been right about Europe.
    I was in - out - in - out, now I will shake it all about. <party>
     
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  13. sb_73

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    Yes, he wasn't arguing it could be done any other way than a in/out option, but simply making the point that the issues are much more nuanced than that, and we see very little of that nuance in the discussions. It's quite possible to hold different views on different bits of the argument, weigh them up and make a call. Personally I think in wins on the economy, out on immigration, really can't see a difference on security, and sovereignty is not important to me. In shades it, then I fall into the trap and argue from one side exclusively, just like the twats on the telly.
    It was worth a pop Col. I suspect she feels just about as passionate about Scotland's independence from England as you do about the UK's independence from the EU. For her the EU is a useful lever to pull to get what she really wants.
     
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    **** me, Rod Stewart, the diminutive faux Scottish croaker, knighted! Cheers Sku.
     
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    And you didn't!
     
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    Don't diss Rod. Without him we would've never had this ...

     
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    Sir James Dyson has come out on the Leave side. Says Britain can't survive out of the EU as ''cobblers''. Mixed feelings about this bloke. Didn't he move his production out to the Far East leaving his British workforce redundant. Funny that the Remain have picked up on one of Leaves arguements and claimed he backed Britain to join the Euro
     
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    I see the boss of JCB wants out as well
     
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