Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
From what I saw last evening in the debate I thought the remain side were poor in their performance, looking to score cheap points against Johnston, the quip about him only being interest in "No 10" from Amber whatever her name is was totally uncalled for in the context of the discussion, no matter how true it may be.

The Shadow Business Secretary, can't remember her name, was just full of bluster and there's a certain irony in wheeling out Nicola Sturgeon as a representative of the remain camp when her sole purpose in politics is to leave the UK........

The one who did impress me was Grisal Stuart who spoke a lot of common sense and expressed her view that although she is German and you would expect her to be in favour of the EU, came across as making quiet an elegant case for leaving. In fact I thought the leavers made their case in a calm manner which if I were voting and undecided in how to vote could have helped make up my mind.......unlike the remain side who just wanted to shout the loudest.....

Where's Jezzer and the rest of them?

Good post.

Sturgeon representing "remain" is a complete joke.
She is passionate about Scotland going it alone but somehow tries to justify supporting the UK staying in the EU. Hypocritical in the extreme!
 
Good post.

Sturgeon representing "remain" is a complete joke.
She is passionate about Scotland going it alone but somehow tries to justify supporting the UK staying in the EU. Hypocritical in the extreme!
Not really. It is possible to be an independent country in an agreement to cooperate with other countries.

Now, walk the dog before the football or watch Andrew Neill v Farage, which could be bloody...nah, footy wins.
 
We need a good perform from Roy and the boys in the euros, a shight performance could get the population restless and vote Leave. A good performance, we feel good and we stick with the status quo.

Harold Wilson never forgave Peter Bonetti
 
Neil would destroy any of them. IBS next week - shame it's not BJ.
There was a bloke on his programme last night (it really pisses me off that they put that on after QT), didn't catch who he was, who said something very interesting - we are being given a binary choice over something which is patently a non binary issue. This has given the campaigns the opportunity to over simplify and lie to their hearts content.
 
There was a bloke on his programme last night (it really pisses me off that they put that on after QT), didn't catch who he was, who said something very interesting - we are being given a binary choice over something which is patently a non binary issue. This has given the campaigns the opportunity to over simplify and lie to their hearts content.

Has to be a simple yes or no, you can't give the electorate a menu. As for the lying you can always tell, their lips move...
 
Not really. It is possible to be an independent country in an agreement to cooperate with other countries.

Now, walk the dog before the football or watch Andrew Neill v Farage, which could be bloody...nah, footy wins.


Except what you describe is nothing like the EU as well you know.
Sturgeon is desperate for Scotland to make a go of it on their own, yet she insists that the UK shouldn't be independent.
Ridiculous.
 
Ten point lead for Brexit in a poll for the Independent. Bookies have reacted to this one.

I'm convinced Brexit will happen now, spoken to too many people who want to "stop Muslim immigration" and spend the 5 billion we send Everyday to the EU, on the NHS.

A lot aren't interested in anything post-Brexit cos its shight for them now.
 
I thought Farage articulated very well on Question Time and it was sad that Izzard was such a know nothing twat. When it comes to Europe i listen to Farage because unlike most of the others he's actually has been there debating and fighting for the UK. He gets dismissed as a racist yet over the years he has been right about Europe.
I was in - out - in - out, now I will shake it all about. <party>
 
Has to be a simple yes or no, you can't give the electorate a menu. As for the lying you can always tell, their lips move...
Yes, he wasn't arguing it could be done any other way than a in/out option, but simply making the point that the issues are much more nuanced than that, and we see very little of that nuance in the discussions. It's quite possible to hold different views on different bits of the argument, weigh them up and make a call. Personally I think in wins on the economy, out on immigration, really can't see a difference on security, and sovereignty is not important to me. In shades it, then I fall into the trap and argue from one side exclusively, just like the twats on the telly.
Except what you describe is nothing like the EU as well you know.
Sturgeon is desperate for Scotland to make a go of it on their own, yet she insists that the UK shouldn't be independent.
Ridiculous.
It was worth a pop Col. I suspect she feels just about as passionate about Scotland's independence from England as you do about the UK's independence from the EU. For her the EU is a useful lever to pull to get what she really wants.
 
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Sir James Dyson has come out on the Leave side. Says Britain can't survive out of the EU as ''cobblers''. Mixed feelings about this bloke. Didn't he move his production out to the Far East leaving his British workforce redundant. Funny that the Remain have picked up on one of Leaves arguements and claimed he backed Britain to join the Euro
 
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