Off Topic European Debate Thread

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In, out, or undecided?

  • In

    Votes: 12 27.3%
  • Out

    Votes: 27 61.4%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 5 11.4%

  • Total voters
    44
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Personally though Farage came across really well,as a tory voter DC skipped around many of the concerns.

As a labour voter I don't like either but Cameron was almost refusing to answer questions like immigration where has been proven to not be able to back up his promises. Farage tried to answer everything in front of at times people who would not let him talk. One of his points according to itn post questions was incorrect. He claimed at current rates Britain needs to build a house every four minutes to keep up with demand and immigration. Its every seven minutes. A house needs to be built every SEVEN mimutes!!!!!
 
BRUSSELS TO FORCE BRITAIN TO ADOPT THE EURO IF WE VOTE TO STAY IN-

Do you as a British person want to be told you have to have the Euro.

No bloody thanks,i will keep my pound-

VOTE REMAIN

EUROPEAN UNION
Brexit business leaders have issued a stunning riposte to David Cameron’s claims that being part of the EU is good for our economy after a senior bank boss separately warned that Brussels may be plotting to force Britain to join the Euro if we vote Remain.

Top economists and entrepreneurs in the Leave camp have come together to issue a damning dossier on the Prime Minister’s economic arguments, which they describe as “so full of holes” they are barely “worthwhile” making.

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Their bombshell broadside comes after a top financier at one of the world’s leading banks said voting to Remain in the EU will “hasten a remodelling of the EU structure” which could see Britain forced to accept the Euro or leave the Brussels club.

And one leading economist argues today that the UK’s membership of the EU could be costing us as much as 10 per cent of our potential GDP, with businesses being stifled by its protectionist policies and overbearing red tape.

The separate interventions, by leading lights in the Labour leave movement and a top financier at the firm UBS, will place further pressure on Mr Cameron’s pro-Remain camp, which has been accused of carrying out a campaign of economic scaremongering.

The comments by Bill O’Neill, the head of the UK Investment Office at UBS Wealth Management, will prove particularly damaging to the PM as it shows that senior economic figures believe that maintaining current levels of integration with Brussels is not an option on the table at this referendum.

Instead, financial institutions are preparing for the EU to continue its inexorable march towards a United States of Europe and feel that it is inconceivable that Britain will not be required to commit fully to the federalist project at some point in the future.
 
Pretty sure the above is absolute BS. Weren't we guaranteed that we won't ever have to join the Euro or some crap like that after DC's 'negotiations'?
 
BRUSSELS TO FORCE BRITAIN TO ADOPT THE EURO IF WE VOTE TO STAY IN-

Do you as a British person want to be told you have to have the Euro.

No bloody thanks,i will keep my pound-

VOTE REMAIN

EUROPEAN UNION
Brexit business leaders have issued a stunning riposte to David Cameron’s claims that being part of the EU is good for our economy after a senior bank boss separately warned that Brussels may be plotting to force Britain to join the Euro if we vote Remain.

Top economists and entrepreneurs in the Leave camp have come together to issue a damning dossier on the Prime Minister’s economic arguments, which they describe as “so full of holes” they are barely “worthwhile” making.

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Their bombshell broadside comes after a top financier at one of the world’s leading banks said voting to Remain in the EU will “hasten a remodelling of the EU structure” which could see Britain forced to accept the Euro or leave the Brussels club.

And one leading economist argues today that the UK’s membership of the EU could be costing us as much as 10 per cent of our potential GDP, with businesses being stifled by its protectionist policies and overbearing red tape.

The separate interventions, by leading lights in the Labour leave movement and a top financier at the firm UBS, will place further pressure on Mr Cameron’s pro-Remain camp, which has been accused of carrying out a campaign of economic scaremongering.

The comments by Bill O’Neill, the head of the UK Investment Office at UBS Wealth Management, will prove particularly damaging to the PM as it shows that senior economic figures believe that maintaining current levels of integration with Brussels is not an option on the table at this referendum.

Instead, financial institutions are preparing for the EU to continue its inexorable march towards a United States of Europe and feel that it is inconceivable that Britain will not be required to commit fully to the federalist project at some point in the future.
Absolute BULLSHIT
 
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We do need immigrants, but we would be in a position to pick them like the Australians and Americans.
It's been said on here before, why do we have to take Europeans but not valued skilled workers from outside Europe.

Controlled immigrants are good for the ecomony, but open floodgates are not good for the ecomony.

One question to MTG why are you constantly saying bullshit or crap but evading questions when asked?
 
Notice the race card got pulled out again on the debate last night..

People are getting fed up of that happening. They aren't kidding anyone.
 
And many of your posts are ill conceived, uneven and untruthful.

Try to explain why the EU will not want the UK to enter into further political and economic union following a remain vote.
Because the EU will not offer a better trade deal to any EU country than it already has for any EU country. The best case scenario is for a deal very similar to what we have got now. However this will involve much of what breakers hate remaining unchanged from open door immigration to many other EU laws.
 
Not when immigration is hated by the brexiters who think they can be like Switzerland and have only a little amount of immigration
No uncontrolled immigration is the issue we need migration yes but we need people with skills. If I got a fully qualified Canadian who can do the job yet it cost me more in bringing him in to the uk then someone from the EU who is not as qualified I'd pick the one from the EU because I can't afford to employ a member of the commonwealth who we have more in common with then some European unelected superstate. You want the best for the uk or some second rate workers I know what I'd rather have.
No matter where your from it should cost the same amount to employee. EU only care about lining their pockets from me and you
 
MTG is just repeating the same old **** over and over again and doesn't back it up with any real facts, its just conjecture and scare mongering. (the very thing the leave campaign are accused of!)

Hes not gonna change his mind and I'm not gonna change mine.

I hope to god my children don't wake up to more years of this miserably corrupt EU anti democracy on June 23rd. Luckily there are plenty of young people like Tiger and my kids who can see the EU for what it is.
 
Because the EU will not offer a better trade deal to any EU country than it already has for any EU country. The best case scenario is for a deal very similar to what we have got now. However this will involve much of what breakers hate remaining unchanged from open door immigration to many other EU laws.

I do not understand what that has to do with explaining why the EU will not want the UK to enter into further political and economic union following a remain vote!
 
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