Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
What about the PGA Golf tour in the States deliberately moving a tournament due to be held at a course owned by Trump in Florida as they say they can't attract enough sponsorship??? To add insult to injury, they are moving the tournament to MEXICO. Poor old Donald is not a happy bunny about it.

They can always use a pitching wedge to get over his wall...<laugh>
 
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Just switched to pro leave - and I think it is people changing their vote rather than new voters.

Yes, that's what I thought was happening.

You've switched your vote to Leave? What's your thinking?
 
Yes, that's what I thought was happening.

You've switched your vote to Leave? What's your thinking?
Boris convinced you?
No, the total votes switched the pro leave just after you posted. Edited the original for sense. I am still in the Remain camp, and can't see that changing, but it's more on the principles than the practicalities, which look pretty crap either way. If we leave we'll be OK long term (but probably no better) as long as Boris doesn't get to run anything, but there will be a couple of years of pain when I will be glad not to be on a fixed income. If we stay we will still have migrants, EU bitching and moaning for the rest of time.

Boris has a very good chance of convincing me to emigrate, that's about all.
 
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EU In or out campaign is on Sky News now with Cameron answering questions from Faisal Islam and the floor at 8pm.

Gove doing the same tomorrow.
 
Interesting analysis this morning from a German businessman. He said that the Germans have traditionally liked playing the compromise maker in the EU, though they are more inclined to the UK position in most things. If the UK goes they will feel isolated and there will be serious questions about whether they would want to continue this role, and instead of compromise they might start to play to win.

For me, the Germans are authors of their own misfortune by the headlong charge to federalism. When are those in the ivory tower going to listen to the people? They're obsessed with a Utopian vision and the corporate world.

Not sure I'll be able to watch Dave without kicking the TV
 
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It's becoming very close.
On here or in the real world? Both I suspect. I'm beginning to think the best strategy for the Remain campaign is to shut up entirely. Then we would have some peace as the Leave people seem to spend 98% of their energy having a go at the last thing their opponents said.