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BBC page on Steve Lansdown

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  1. cidered abroad

    cidered abroad Well-Known Member

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  2. RedorDead

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    Nice to see some of the gas comments, not bitter are they?
     
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  3. invermeremike

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    It all sounds very well and good and in the eyes of many we are still in the backwaters, in their minds only, and only success will dampen the criticism. I have often wondered why in these difficult financial times more sporting franchises haven't followed a similar route by consolidating administration and stadium costs because by doing so I expect revenue streams would improve.

    I have criticised SL on many occasions, usually Monday mornings after a loss, and yet his formula sounds correct in most ways and so all we need now is the promised success and my thoughts empathise with anyone trying to navigate the rough waters of the Championship under the existing irrational financial restrictions imposed by those who don't give a flying fart about the likes of Bristol City and others like us.
     
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  4. Angelicnumber16

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    As the sayings go, talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words.

    There has been a lot of posturing going on from the likes of Ashton and Lansdown but the time is fast approaching where people will want firm evidence of just how far our owner wants to take this project.

    Management (of course) took the cheap and easy option in appointing LJ, when virtually the whole fan base wanted a more high profile name to go with the aspirations being bandied about.

    After steering us (well) clear of the bottom 3 Little Lee has bought himself some time, but he and the whole club need to up the ante from the off next season, as this is going to be a hell of a tough league to even survive in.
     
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  5. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    What is it you want them to do? Go out splash a load of cash that the CLUB don't have and put us on a transfer embargo, or buy slowly within our remit preventing losses but building up to go for it which will take time?
     
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    having read the Lansdown report , not via the link but from the Rugby page, it shows a different insight into Bristol city FC when we see him making comments about BCFC we always take it to heart as "seen it all before" oh yes same again etc etc
    However, it is not necessarily just about the sports but the home of the sports ASHTON GATE STADIUM the base for the skyscraper which will let the rest of the country see where we are
     
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    'What is it you want them to do?'

    Our revenue next year will be much bigger so yes, I want them to spend more on players.
    We got away with it this season with Baker, Tomlin etc etc.
    If we cut corners, there's only one way - South.

    We screwed up/underestimated the Championship last preseason, ffs let's not let it happen again.
     
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  8. Red Squid

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    Just like the rest of you, I've always found it easier to spend someone else's money. Especially when they have more than I do! Without SL we would be a much smaller club than some of you think we are. The championship is extremely competitive and we will do well to finish mid table next season. Rome wasn't built in a day you know and, personally am happy with the progress we are making. Looking forward to the 22nd June and planning my away trips for next season.
     
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    had an emergency call to go to heathrow so didn't really finish ..
    SL in his interview was very subtle about Bristol sport, imagine what it would be like if we had built at LA !
    His inferences are BCFC HAS A HOME pre 20?? they alone, almost, had the up keep and running costs these are now shared not by crowds of 15,000 but crowds of over 30,000 and will increase this allows more money for BCFC to "spend" on its team and likewise for the other sports .. he/we can now with the added equity have a bit more leeway with regard to finance ..

    HAZARD A GUESS AT HOW MUCH WE WILL SPEND IN THE TRANSFER MARKET???? ...
    me I reckon we will spend £7m + possible 1 or 2 recruits from France/ Europe but not Mousset he is the cat out of the bag .. maybe go for £5m ! (over a period)
     
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    Because these sporting franchises do not exist.

    FFP is rational.

    Parachute payments could be looked upon as a form of financial restriction, but Mr Lansdown supports them.
     
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  11. Angelicnumber16

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    No, but equally, and as Redprintt says, after the debacle of last years almost non event in the transfer market during the Summer. which left us woefully unprepared for the season ahead, I don't want to see another period of struggle and lame excuses after whats been said this time around.
    It sounds like we're prepared for the season ahead, so for once the club need to prove it.
     
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    don't quite see how they are a financial restriction ????
    in the next 3 years or so clubs who fail in the higher league drop into the championship and pick up a bonus of at least £80m plus add to that their gate monies, likes of Newcastle, and other income and they could well exceed £200m ... what can city expect in the same period?
     
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    Whilst I do understand why parachute payments exist, I agree that they could be considered unfair to other clubs in the Division. You want clubs in the top division to be competitive, but by doing this you help create a status quo that rewards those who just so happen to be at the top table at the right time (i.e. just as record-breaking TV deals come in).

    In my mind the difficulty lies in that players are both employees and assets simultaneously and it's difficult to come up with rules that are fair for all involved. Going back, the Bosman ruling swung things from one extreme to the other, where before players had too little power, but now (in a lot of cases) they have too much and wages have sky-rocketed, partially as a result of this.

    Without investigating the full implications, I imagine there must be a way in which they are scrapped (or significantly reduced) by incorporating mandatory contract clauses that include relegation release fees and wage reductions, somehow calculated to be in accordance with the reduced income of the Championship. That way, if a club is relegated, they'll either be compensated (if only partially) by the transfer fees they'd have to accept, or the player would be on lower wages that could be maintained - the caveat being perhaps that any player would be able to buy out his contract (at the reduced wage) if he so chose, but maybe compensation would be owed from whatever club they joined, if within a certain time-frame. You certainly wouldn't want to create a situation where players intentionally play badly to get their struggling club relegated so they could move to a rival that survives on the cheap!
     
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    The unfairness of parachute payments restricts the ability of other clubs to progress. I have wondered why Mr Lansdown is in favour of rewarding failure, at the expense of BCFC.
     
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    Probably because he can see a time coming where we are falling like a stone from the Premiership, and he doesn't want us propping up the basement division like we did last time
     
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  16. Mind the gap!

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    Since rugby doesn't have FFP I guess that figures could be manipulated so that they pay us for using the facilites and thus getting a higher income on paper to overcome FFP
     
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