Off Topic European Debate Thread

Did you actually read what I said?

You have been asked this now on several occasions, Why won't you answer?

 

Wrong again.. you can't string a sentence together based in any facts.. tell the truth!

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

Thats not '**** all'

 

Chatting to my wife's uncle tonight who works for Airbus and also farming (wife runs the farm) , asked him what he is voting for and he said based on who he's working for and the grants he gets you would think in. But tells me the grants they get and then the restrictions they put on farmers, don't really add up so he's voting out.
What he also mentioned was that France is on its kness and its only us and Germany who are strong in the EU. And he thinks within 6 months after if we leave Germany won't be far behind.

 

Stole this from a Bristol City Facebook page, it covers it for me.

"For all those that are currently thinking of voting to remain because of the financial scare stories, I ask you a question.

If Hitler during WW2 or Napoleon before him had offered us peace terms that meant we would fall under nazi rule but in return we would be financially better off, what do you think out grandparents would have said?

If any foreign power now offered us money but we had to give up control of our country for it, what would we say? Well thats is exactly what the remain camp are saying. That we will sell our sovereignty for money.

This referendum is about more than just money and our generation needs to show the same courage and strength that our grandparents showed.

This is about self rule and accountability more than anything else.

If you agree with this, please share and get this message across to as many people as possible. We have to win this for OUR COUNTRY'S sake."

 

MTG, watch this movie, I have, its over an hour long but will put to bed your arguments about Trade deals, Switzerland etc, this is essentially your future and its a one off vote, watch the alternative to what life could be outside the EU.. If I had any doubts whatsoever regarding the financial implications of leaving Europe I don't anymore after watching that. In fact I would suggest every single person should watch this film!

If you don't have an hour watch from 50 mins in...


http://www.brexitthemovie.com

 

It is not a large amount of money.

Also I think it is pretty ****ty to say that we shouldn't help asylum seekers.

There will always be asylum seekers regardless of whether we're in the Eu so leaving won't change it

 

Are you honestly comparing the Eu to the nazis

 

I don't have the time to watch a biased and probably fact twisted film when I am 100% sure I'm voting in

 

Maybe you should try watching it then debate the points in it as you have offered no evidence to why we should stay in. I'm not voting in but I will at least watch and read the points of view of the in camp.
We may not know what leaving will do no one does however what I do know is the EU is broken it needs fixing but I can't sacrifice this country for it. Not whilst the 'reforms' are still not in place what will stop them from being blocked if we vote in.

 

You struggle with ' understanding' things don't you!

 

Big SAM says out.it has ruined English football,he said we need more home grown players in the premiership.
He says it has ruined our national side.

Mick Jagger says we should all vote out,saying the Euro is undemocratic.

 

Any chance. How will leaving the EU not reduce immigration?

 

Because the if you look at Norway and Switzerland then they both have agreements with the Eu for trade purposes. Both agreements say that they must obey Eu laws including immigration ones. Therefore by leaving we will have the same immigration laws in any trade agreement we draw up with the Eu

 

Big Sam is obviously oblivious to the fact that it is the academy systems of premier league sides that have ruined our national side and is just aimlessly scapegoating.

As for mick jagger, the bloke is a bit of a nutter and his opinion is no different to an average out voter on the street

 

Norway is not part of the European Economic Area and has a different rules in place to Switzerland.

Switzerland is part of Schengen. The UK is not.

The UK with a no vote almost certainly would be looking towards full democratic control of its borders leading to a very large reduction in immigration.

Very different.

 

However it is unlikely to be achieved for a variety of political and economical factors

 

Watch the film and you won't continue to peddle incorrect rubbish!

We won't, and you repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make you correct..

For starters you said they get "**** all" and secondly, it is a massive amount of money when multplied by thousands.. but then you don't pay any tax do you so you don't care!

 

It will be achieved, there will be nothing to stop it..

 

This sums up MTG all day.. He is what 20 years old but he knows better than anyone else on here, no life experience in the real world
and not even out of education but he has said on here that 'people' are not intelligent enough to make this decision, A stance strangely that is taken by EU too. Anyone who wants their own democracy back is a bit of a 'nutter'. anyone who wants to control our own borders is a 'racist' and simple basic, proven facts regarding anything negative about the EU is "twisted lies" but he has consistently been called out on some of his statements and can't answer them! He has happily admitted that he wants to work in Europe so its '**** you lot, its all about me'..

What I have learnt is He would certainly fit in well if he gets the chance..