What do you think our chances our now? 4 or 6 points required?

[Joelinton's Right Foot]

Ah well, the lunchtime after the morning that was slept through after the night before......

It still hurts that we are going down but life goes on. Time to accept it and move on. I know the manager and players have to prepare for every eventuality and so should be focusing on the Spurs game at the minute - just in case - but I hope others behind the scenes are already putting some very serious thought into where we go from here, what changes need to be made, and which people need to be in place (or not) for those changes to be carried out properly.

 

[flandersmackem]

if we do beat Everton on Wednesday, your game with Spurs will be played in a very toxic atmosphere I reckon. All the years of monumental ****-ups with MA and another relegation will tip a few fans over the edge, could be interesting viewing

 

[murray out]

if we do beat Everton on Wednesday, your game with Spurs will be played in a very toxic atmosphere I reckon. All the years of monumental ****-ups with MA and another relegation will tip a few fans over the edge, could be interesting viewing

They need to lock up the horses marra

 

[Lord Jonjomort]

Ah well, the lunchtime after the morning that was slept through after the night before......

It still hurts that we are going down but life goes on. Time to accept it and move on. I know the manager and players have to prepare for every eventuality and so should be focusing on the Spurs game at the minute - just in case - but I hope others behind the scenes are already putting some very serious thought into where we go from here, what changes need to be made, and which people need to be in place (or not) for those changes to be carried out properly.

The same people who gave serious thought to John Carver and Schteve are still there, bud. Unless Rafa is now the entire "football board", we remain in peril.

 

[Lord Jonjomort]

if we do beat Everton on Wednesday, your game with Spurs will be played in a very toxic atmosphere I reckon. All the years of monumental ****-ups with MA and another relegation will tip a few fans over the edge, could be interesting viewing

Nah. Worst case it'll be insipid apathy. Toxic? Too many uninvolved fans and too much conflict about Rafas last game.

I'll be having a little party to celebrate the vanquishing of a number of evils and to also welcome in the chance of winning football matches next year.

 

[daztoc]

The same people who gave serious thought to John Carver and Schteve are still there, bud. Unless Rafa is now the entire "football board", we remain in peril.

Exactly. Ashley's first act as soon as relegation is confirmed should be to dismiss Charnley and Carr on the spot. Unless that happens anything else will be a complete waste of time.

 

[Warmir Pouchov]

if we do beat Everton on Wednesday, your game with Spurs will be played in a very toxic atmosphere I reckon. All the years of monumental ****-ups with MA and another relegation will tip a few fans over the edge, could be interesting viewing

Nah its not like last time really. Most fans have accepted it for a long time now, and accepted for a long time what we have become. As Rolando says, most fans are just a bit "meh" now. There will be a few like any other club who goes down. This is what we are. Like Sunderland, Villa, perennial relegation battlers. Eventually your number comes up and we fully deserve relegation if it comes.

However if it is toxic viewing you find interesting, then Villa and Charlton seem to have this locked down at the moment

 

[Warmir Pouchov]

It must hurt. If sunderland go down and newcastle don't it will hurt me immensely.
Its not over yet. Newcastle still have a glimmer

Not really. Its disappointing for sure. Nobody wants to be relegated. However once you have accepted it for 3 or 4 months, and got used to year after year of going nowhere as a club, it just doesn't really have the same effect. When you are ran the way we are, then you know relegation is never far away. Lets face it we've been on the brink plenty of times over the last 5 years.

Plus everybody acts like its the end of the world. I've been saying all season football is not the PL. When we went down last time, we all enjoyed the championship. The club goes on whichever league we are in. Outside of the derby games I don't really mind what happens with Sunderland. I wouldn't want them getting their passports out but at the same time we're both just also rans in the PL. The only disappointment is we don't have the derby games. I don't care how badly we have fared in them, nobody can say they won't miss the games. For clubs like ours and yours, nothing really matches the build up or tension around that fixture.

 

[safcrocket]

Not really. Its disappointing for sure. Nobody wants to be relegated. However once you have accepted it for 3 or 4 months, and got used to year after year of going nowhere as a club, it just doesn't really have the same effect. When you are ran the way we are, then you know relegation is never far away. Lets face it we've been on the brink plenty of times over the last 5 years.

Plus everybody acts like its the end of the world. I've been saying all season football is not the PL. When we went down last time, we all enjoyed the championship. The club goes on whichever league we are in. Outside of the derby games I don't really mind what happens with Sunderland. I wouldn't want them getting their passports out but at the same time we're both just also rans in the PL. The only disappointment is we don't have the derby games. I don't care how badly we have fared in them, nobody can say they won't miss the games. For clubs like ours and yours, nothing really matches the build up or tension around that fixture.

I'd take the a couple seasons without the derby, just to see the misery on them black and white faces when relegation is confirmed

 

[Toon_Man_Sam1]

I'd take the a couple seasons without the derby, just to see the misery on them black and white faces when relegation is confirmed

Lol, that sounds like the opinion of someone who has a small club mentality. Like it's been mentioned before, I would rather be relegated than stay up on the goals and contribution of a kiddy fiddler of which your chairwoman had full awareness of and therefore quit and fled.

I hope you enjoy next year in the prem and sky enjoy paying billions of pounds to air your pinkish empty seats. Football is more than just Premier League, even in the division below, we will still get more fans turn up, we will still have players decide to join us over you, we will always have bigger icons than you, we will still have the bigger history.

 

[flandersmackem]

Lol, that sounds like the opinion of someone who has a small club mentality. Like it's been mentioned before, I would rather be relegated than stay up on the goals and contribution of a kiddy fiddler of which your chairwoman had full awareness of and therefore quit and fled.

I hope you enjoy next year in the prem and sky enjoy paying billions of pounds to air your pinkish empty seats. Football is more than just Premier League, even in the division below, we will still get more fans turn up, we will still have players decide to join us over you, we will always have bigger icons than you, we will still have the bigger history.

No you wouldn't and that really does come across as the worst sour grapes comment I've seen on here. Enjoy Burton, I'm sure your ethical stance will make you feel better when you play them.

 

[T.P]

Lol, that sounds like the opinion of someone who has a small club mentality. Like it's been mentioned before, I would rather be relegated than stay up on the goals and contribution of a kiddy fiddler of which your chairwoman had full awareness of and therefore quit and fled.

I hope you enjoy next year in the prem and sky enjoy paying billions of pounds to air your pinkish empty seats. Football is more than just Premier League, even in the division below, we will still get more fans turn up, we will still have players decide to join us over you, we will always have bigger icons than you, we will still have the bigger history.

 

[Dorty Dogbreath]

Awful pong around here.

 

[E.T. Fairfax]

I'd take the a couple seasons without the derby, just to see the misery on them black and white faces when relegation is confirmed

That's just asking for SAFC to be relegated now. Every time I read comments like that the more likely I see us ballsing things up and the town getting the win they need.

 

[Dorty Dogbreath]

That's just asking for SAFC to be relegated now. Every time I read comments like that the more likely I see us ballsing things up and the town getting the win they need.

As much as your fellow fan is asking for trouble, I can't see sunderland not beating everton on Wednesday. Mackems have been more than up for it of late, and anyway, you have another bite of the cherry on sunday.

 

[Joelinton's Right Foot]

That's just asking for SAFC to be relegated now. Every time I read comments like that the more likely I see us ballsing things up and the town getting the win they need.

I can't see any way that you will not get at least 3 points in your last two games.

Most people are keeping their powder dry until it is certain (even Comm). However, come Wednesday night no doubt we will get the real influx of joyful mackems over here. Most will be in good spirits and will be more pleased about you staying up than us going down. Some might even have genuine sympathy (though not many I suspect ), knowing that relegation hurts. We can't complain. There would have been a fair few from here doing the trip in the opposite direction if roles were reversed. You will get a few bites and some will lash out. Neither side can really expect anything different. I might just go into hiding for a few weeks!

 

[Dorty Dogbreath]

I can't see any way that you will not get at least 3 points in your last two games.

Most people are keeping their powder dry until it is certain (even Comm). However, come Wednesday night no doubt we will get the real influx of joyful mackems over here. Most will be in good spirits and will be more pleased about you staying up than us going down. Some might even have genuine sympathy (though not many I suspect ), knowing that relegation hurts. We can't complain. There would have been a fair few from here doing the trip in the opposite direction if roles were reversed. You will get a few bites and some will lash out. Neither side can really expect anything different. I might just go into hiding for a few weeks!

Mind, if they don't get the win on Wednesday, it will be amusing to not see the influx.....then there arses really will be twitching.

 

[Charlie Snakescock]

Nah its not like last time really. Most fans have accepted it for a long time now, and accepted for a long time what we have become. As Rolando says, most fans are just a bit "meh" now. There will be a few like any other club who goes down. This is what we are. Like Sunderland, Villa, perennial relegation battlers. Eventually your number comes up and we fully deserve relegation if it comes.

Very much so, "the table doesn't lie" is the only true football cliché - at the end of the season the teams going down are the worst 3. We could debate we've been denied points (i.e. the ref decisions in the away match at Sunderland), but we deserve to be in bottom 3 cos we're a ****e team who have been ****e all season - a combination of sticking with a rubbish manager for too long, having too many players who don't give a **** and the players that do give a **** simply not being good enough. Maybe if Rob Elliott had been missed then we'd be able to gloss over relegation with the loss of a key player, but the harsh reality is Darlow has played well, he hasn't been missed and it's become clear the rest of the team is rubbish.

This team doesn't deserve to stay up, and it would be incredibly harsh on Sunderland if we stay up at their expense....I'm hoping that's what happens, but in no way nervous about the run in, cos I've pretty much accepted the worst now.

 

[Joelinton's Right Foot]

Mind, if they don't get the win on Wednesday, it will be amusing to not see the influx.....then there arses really will be twitching.

It would be fun for a few days. Just putting off the inevitable though.

 

[Joelinton's Right Foot]

Very much so, "the table doesn't lie" is the only true football cliché - at the end of the season the teams going down are the worst 3. We could debate we've been denied points (i.e. the ref decisions in the away match at Sunderland), but we deserve to be in bottom 3 cos we're a ****e team who have been ****e all season - a combination of sticking with a rubbish manager for too long, having too many players who don't give a **** and the players that do give a **** simply not being good enough. Maybe if Rob Elliott had been missed then we'd be able to gloss over relegation with the loss of a key player, but the harsh reality is Darlow has played well, he hasn't been missed and it's become clear the rest of the team is rubbish.

This team doesn't deserve to stay up, and it would be incredibly harsh on Sunderland if we stay up at their expense....I'm hoping that's what happens, but in no way nervous about the run in, cos I've pretty much accepted the worst now.

This^^ 100%