Off Topic Cannabis

should cannabis be legalized/decriminalised

  • free da erb mon

  • available for medicinal purposes only

  • **** off you skag head

  • decriminalise

  • i cant remember the question

  • oooh look brownies!

  • Grow up and get a job!


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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ugh-licensed-shops-poll-reveals-a6976796.html

Cannabis legalisation: 47% support sale of drug through licensed shops, poll reveals
Exclusive: Lib Dems adopted the proposal after they commissioned a study which found the move could generate £1bn of tax revenue.
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In the Netherlands, 'coffeeshops' serve as licensed premises permitting the sale and personal consumption of cannabis Rex
Strong support for legalising the sale of cannabis through licensed shops has emerged in an opinion poll for The Independent. Some 47 per cent of people back the idea, while 39 per cent oppose it and 14 per cent are “don’t knows”, according to the survey of 2,000 people by polling company ORB.

The proposal has been adopted by the Liberal Democrats, after they commissioned a study by experts which found that controlled sales of cannabis to over-18s in specialist shops could generate £1bn of tax revenue by cutting out the criminals who profit from the trade in the drug.

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Generation gap: Young adults are turning their back on drugs

In the first measure of what the public thinks about the Lib Dem policy, those polled were told about last month’s study before being asked whether they backed licensed sales.

The findings were welcomed as a breakthrough by campaigners for reform of drug laws because they suggest that public support for such a change could grow if people become aware of the possible benefits.

Although the British Government opposes relaxing the laws, there is a growing political debate around the world about what critics call the “failed war on drugs”. The United Nations General Assembly will hold a special session on drugs later this month.

ORB found that men (53 per cent) are more likely to back licensed sales of cannabis than women (41 per cent). Support is higher among the top AB social class (50 per cent), declining down the scale to 44 per cent among the bottom DE group. Backing for the proposal is highest in Scotland (58 per cent) and London (54 per cent) and lowest in the North-east (37 per cent).

Four out of 10 people (41 per cent) who voted Conservative at last year’s general election back licensed sales of cannabis, only just below the level of support among Labour, Liberal Democrat and Ukip voters.

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One in three people (33 per cent) thinks that possession of the drug should be decriminalised and its supply restricted, while a further 14 per cent think it should be legal and freely available to buy and sell. Again, men are more likely to back reform than women.

A majority of people (53 per cent) think that poppers should be illegal to buy or sell even though the Government has dropped plans to include them on a banned list of “legal highs”. They are sometimes used by gay men to enhance sexual pleasure.

Perhaps surprisingly, one in 10 people (10 per cent) thinks it should be illegal to buy or sell tobacco, while seven out of 10 people believe tobacco should be legal and freely available to buy and sell.

ORB asked people, on a confidential basis, whether they had tried certain drugs. Three out of 10 people (31 per cent) said they had tried non-skunk cannabis but only half as many (15 per cent) had used skunk. Some 11 per cent had tried cocaine and the same proportion poppers, while 10 per cent has taken ecstasy. Some seven per cent had tried LSD, five per cent nitrous oxide and three per cent ketamine. The actual level of drug-taking could be higher as previous surveys have suggested people play down their personal use.

About two out of three people (64 per cent) said they had tried tobacco but 35 per cent had not. Nine out of 10 people had tried alcohol but nine per cent had not.

Norman Lamb, the former Health Minister who set up the Lib Dems’ expert panel, said ORB’s findings about licensed cannabis sales showed that the public were way ahead of most politicians who, he claimed, doggedly support prohibition despite its disastrous consequences.

He told The Independent: “The introduction of a legalised, regulated market would deprive organised crime of billions of pounds every year. It would protect people’s health far more effectively because you would know what you are buying – and potency could be controlled. And it would stop the ludicrous criminalising of so many people – which blights their careers and their life chances.”

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Mr Lamb added: “I hope now that this poll might encourage the Prime Minister to reflect further on the wisdom of his change of heart since becoming Tory leader. He was once a reformer. He should follow the lead of Justin Trudeau, the Liberal Canadian Prime Minister, and commit to legislating to introduce a regulated market for cannabis.”

Professor David Nutt, a member of the panel and former chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, said the people surveyed had “a rational attitude to cannabis” but rather less so towards other drugs. Danny Kushlick, head of external affairs at the Transform Drug Policy Foundation, said: “Millions of us want the Government to take control of the cannabis trade. Yet neither Jeremy Corbyn nor David Cameron will genuinely discuss legal regulation. Unless and until they show leadership on the issue the drugs trade will remain in the hands of organised criminals and unregulated dealers.”

Poll Results
Do you agree or disagree that cannabis should be legal to sell in some licensed shops?

Agree 47%

Disagree 39%

Don’t know 14%

Of the following, which should be legal and freely available to buy and sell...?

Alcohol 83%

Tobacco 70%

Skunk 7%

Cannabis (non skunk) 14%

Ecstasy 3%

Nitrous 7%

Heroin 2%

Cocaine 2%

Poppers 9%

Mephredone 3%

LSD 3%

Ketamine 2%

Khat 2%

Spice 4%

DMT 2%

Have you ever tried...?

Alcohol 90%

Tobacco 64%

Skunk 15%

Cannabis (non skunk) 31%

Ecstasy 10%

Nitrous 5%

Heroin 1%

Cocaine 11%

Poppers 11%

Mephredone 2%

LSD 7%

Ketamine 3%

Khat 1%

Spice 1%

DMT 1%

Source: ORB/The Independent
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ugh-licensed-shops-poll-reveals-a6976796.html

Cannabis legalisation: 47% support sale of drug through licensed shops, poll reveals
Exclusive: Lib Dems adopted the proposal after they commissioned a study which found the move could generate £1bn of tax revenue.
You must log in or register to see images

In the Netherlands, 'coffeeshops' serve as licensed premises permitting the sale and personal consumption of cannabis Rex
Strong support for legalising the sale of cannabis through licensed shops has emerged in an opinion poll for The Independent. Some 47 per cent of people back the idea, while 39 per cent oppose it and 14 per cent are “don’t knows”, according to the survey of 2,000 people by polling company ORB.

The proposal has been adopted by the Liberal Democrats, after they commissioned a study by experts which found that controlled sales of cannabis to over-18s in specialist shops could generate £1bn of tax revenue by cutting out the criminals who profit from the trade in the drug.

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Generation gap: Young adults are turning their back on drugs

In the first measure of what the public thinks about the Lib Dem policy, those polled were told about last month’s study before being asked whether they backed licensed sales.

The findings were welcomed as a breakthrough by campaigners for reform of drug laws because they suggest that public support for such a change could grow if people become aware of the possible benefits.

Although the British Government opposes relaxing the laws, there is a growing political debate around the world about what critics call the “failed war on drugs”. The United Nations General Assembly will hold a special session on drugs later this month.

ORB found that men (53 per cent) are more likely to back licensed sales of cannabis than women (41 per cent). Support is higher among the top AB social class (50 per cent), declining down the scale to 44 per cent among the bottom DE group. Backing for the proposal is highest in Scotland (58 per cent) and London (54 per cent) and lowest in the North-east (37 per cent).

Four out of 10 people (41 per cent) who voted Conservative at last year’s general election back licensed sales of cannabis, only just below the level of support among Labour, Liberal Democrat and Ukip voters.

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One in three people (33 per cent) thinks that possession of the drug should be decriminalised and its supply restricted, while a further 14 per cent think it should be legal and freely available to buy and sell. Again, men are more likely to back reform than women.

A majority of people (53 per cent) think that poppers should be illegal to buy or sell even though the Government has dropped plans to include them on a banned list of “legal highs”. They are sometimes used by gay men to enhance sexual pleasure.

Perhaps surprisingly, one in 10 people (10 per cent) thinks it should be illegal to buy or sell tobacco, while seven out of 10 people believe tobacco should be legal and freely available to buy and sell.

ORB asked people, on a confidential basis, whether they had tried certain drugs. Three out of 10 people (31 per cent) said they had tried non-skunk cannabis but only half as many (15 per cent) had used skunk. Some 11 per cent had tried cocaine and the same proportion poppers, while 10 per cent has taken ecstasy. Some seven per cent had tried LSD, five per cent nitrous oxide and three per cent ketamine. The actual level of drug-taking could be higher as previous surveys have suggested people play down their personal use.

About two out of three people (64 per cent) said they had tried tobacco but 35 per cent had not. Nine out of 10 people had tried alcohol but nine per cent had not.

Norman Lamb, the former Health Minister who set up the Lib Dems’ expert panel, said ORB’s findings about licensed cannabis sales showed that the public were way ahead of most politicians who, he claimed, doggedly support prohibition despite its disastrous consequences.

He told The Independent: “The introduction of a legalised, regulated market would deprive organised crime of billions of pounds every year. It would protect people’s health far more effectively because you would know what you are buying – and potency could be controlled. And it would stop the ludicrous criminalising of so many people – which blights their careers and their life chances.”

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Mr Lamb added: “I hope now that this poll might encourage the Prime Minister to reflect further on the wisdom of his change of heart since becoming Tory leader. He was once a reformer. He should follow the lead of Justin Trudeau, the Liberal Canadian Prime Minister, and commit to legislating to introduce a regulated market for cannabis.”

Professor David Nutt, a member of the panel and former chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, said the people surveyed had “a rational attitude to cannabis” but rather less so towards other drugs. Danny Kushlick, head of external affairs at the Transform Drug Policy Foundation, said: “Millions of us want the Government to take control of the cannabis trade. Yet neither Jeremy Corbyn nor David Cameron will genuinely discuss legal regulation. Unless and until they show leadership on the issue the drugs trade will remain in the hands of organised criminals and unregulated dealers.”

Poll Results
Do you agree or disagree that cannabis should be legal to sell in some licensed shops?

Agree 47%

Disagree 39%

Don’t know 14%

Of the following, which should be legal and freely available to buy and sell...?

Alcohol 83%

Tobacco 70%

Skunk 7%

Cannabis (non skunk) 14%

Ecstasy 3%

Nitrous 7%

Heroin 2%

Cocaine 2%

Poppers 9%

Mephredone 3%

LSD 3%

Ketamine 2%

Khat 2%

Spice 4%

DMT 2%

Have you ever tried...?

Alcohol 90%

Tobacco 64%

Skunk 15%

Cannabis (non skunk) 31%

Ecstasy 10%

Nitrous 5%

Heroin 1%

Cocaine 11%

Poppers 11%

Mephredone 2%

LSD 7%

Ketamine 3%

Khat 1%

Spice 1%

DMT 1%

Source: ORB/The Independent

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That pic explains in very simple terms how for us (joe bloggs) growing weed is illegal and has no medicinal value in the uk..


But if youre a massive corporate entity, go right ahead guys, oh and youll sell it to us for only £125 per gram? sure shut up and take my money!


****ing pigs in suits, ****s
 
Just to give other posters an idea of how harsh some parts of the British Isles still are on cannabis, this is from my local paper recently.

A young woman ( 23 years old) was stopped and a small amount of cannabis was found in her possession. When I say small amount it was
0.74g. This resulted in a court appearance and a £400 fine <yikes>............pretty standard around these parts. You wouldn't believe we are in
the 21st century, shockingly pathetic attitude
 
Just to give other posters an idea of how harsh some parts of the British Isles still are on cannabis, this is from my local paper recently.

A young woman ( 23 years old) was stopped and a small amount of cannabis was found in her possession. When I say small amount it was
0.74g. This resulted in a court appearance and a £400 fine <yikes>............pretty standard around these parts. You wouldn't believe we are in
the 21st century, shockingly pathetic attitude

A few years ago (maybe 7) i was in the isle of man for a weekend and heard on the local radio that a man had been found with 12 ecstacy pills and 3grams of skunk, sentenced to 3 years!!!!

i found it so shocking because the day before id brought 20pills and a 8th of Colombian marching powder with me on the plane <laugh>
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ugh-licensed-shops-poll-reveals-a6976796.html


Poll Results
Do you agree or disagree that cannabis should be legal to sell in some licensed shops?

Agree 47%

Disagree 39%

Don’t know 14%

Of the following, which should be legal and freely available to buy and sell...?

Alcohol 83%

Tobacco 70%

Skunk 7%

Cannabis (non skunk) 14%

Ecstasy 3%

Nitrous 7%

Heroin 2%

Cocaine 2%

Poppers 9%

Mephredone 3%

LSD 3%

Ketamine 2%

Khat 2%

Spice 4%

DMT 2%

Have you ever tried...?

Alcohol 90%

Tobacco 64%

Skunk 15%

Cannabis (non skunk) 31%

Ecstasy 10%

Nitrous 5%

Heroin 1%

Cocaine 11%

Poppers 11%

Mephredone 2%

LSD 7%

Ketamine 3%

Khat 1%

Spice 1%

DMT 1%

Source: ORB/The Independent

I don't trust those stats at all, I mean, the same amount of people have tried Heroin as DMT? <yikes>

Heroin is one of the msot commonly available drugs on the street compared to DMT which is extremely rare and many experienced drug users have never heard of it <laugh>
 
I don't trust those stats at all, I mean, the same amount of people have tried Heroin as DMT? <yikes>

Heroin is one of the msot commonly available drugs on the street compared to DMT which is extremely rare and many experienced drug users have never heard of it <laugh>

I tend to be as sceptical about "surveys" myself <laugh>

The more Pro- weed articles and polls we see in tabloids the better in regards to undoing the work of reefer madness and such other anti cannabis policies.
 
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How bloody insane is this! crazy

Lee Carroll Brooker, a 75-year-old disabled veteran suffering from chronic pain, was arrested in July 2011 for growing three dozen marijuana plants for his own medicinal use behind his son’s house in Dothan, Ala., where he lived. For this crime, Mr. Brooker was given a life sentence with no possibility of release.

Alabama law mandates that anyone with certain prior felony convictions be sentenced to life without parole for possessing more than 1 kilogram, or 2.2 pounds, of marijuana, regardless of intent to sell. Mr. Brooker had been convicted of armed robberies in Florida two decades earlier, for which he served 10 years. The marijuana plants collected at his son’s house — including unusable parts like vines and stalks — weighed 2.8 pounds.

At his sentencing, the trial judge told Mr. Brooker that if he “could sentence you to a term that is less than life without parole, I would.” Last year, Roy Moore, chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, called Mr. Brooker’s sentence “excessive and unjustified,” and said it revealed “grave flaws” in the state’s sentencing laws, but the court still upheld the punishment.

On Friday, the United States Supreme Court will consider whether to hear Mr. Brooker’s challenge to his sentence, which he argues violates the Eighth Amendment’s ban on cruel and unusual punishments. The justices should take the case and overturn this sentence.

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Life without parole, second only to the death penalty in severity, should never be a mandatory sentence for any crime, much less for simple possession of marijuana, which is not even a crime in many parts of the country. If this punishment is ever meted out, it should be by a judge who has carefully weighed the individual circumstances of a case.

Besides Alabama, only South Dakota, Louisiana and Mississippi have such laws; in Mississippi, possession of barely one ounce of marijuana is enough to trigger a mandatory sentence of life without parole for someone with prior convictions for certain felonies. Almost everywhere else, public attitudes and policy toward drugs in general, and marijuana in particular, have changed significantly. Twenty-three states and the District of Columbia have legalized medical marijuana, and four states, along with D.C., have fully legalized its possession for recreational use. In most states, the maximum sentence for possessing less than three pounds of marijuana is at most five years.

In other words, Mr. Brooker’s punishment for marijuana possession is the definition of cruel and unusual. He received a punishment typically reserved for the most violent crimes, like murder, rape and terrorism, even though he poses no threat to society. The trial court even allowed him to remain free while he awaited his sentencing.

In 1991, the Supreme Court upheld a state law that mandated life without parole for possession of less than one and a half pounds of cocaine. Justice Anthony Kennedy, who concurred in that opinion, has since spoken out on the scourge of mandatory minimum sentences, which he said are often “unwise and unjust,” and represent a “misguided” transfer of power from judges to prosecutors.

The court has already banned mandatory death sentences and mandatory life-without-parole sentences for juveniles, both on the grounds that the Eighth Amendment must adapt to the “evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society.” By that standard, and given rapidly evolving public opinion on marijuana, no one should be sent to prison forever for possessing a small amount of marijuana for medical or personal use.
 
Americans have no sense of justice. They treat the lowly so badly and then if Gordon gecko got done for it it'd be a slick lawyer and no charge


Sick country