Match Day Thread Liverpool V Tottenham

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For me long term thinking is required.

If Leicester win this they will be top seeds in cl group but have **** all hope imo of getting out of group

If spurs get the league they've half a chance of getting out of a cl group. Ok they've bottled europa every time they meet anyone even half scary but they could get out of a group where the 3rd and 4th seeds are not scary.

If we also see Utd in there they could be 3rd seeds if unlucky as Leicester will push others down.

Spurs are show ins but will be 3rd seeds.

So..... by end of next season I can see england losing its 4th cl spot.

If Leicester are 2nd they will be 4th seeds in the cl groups so might get europa if we are lucky.

I'm backing spurs for this reason... I don't give a toss about inter club rivalry or spurs fans

You never know, may suprise a few like this season.

And they deserve the chance to try to get out of a CL group, Utd and Pool couldn't do it in the last 2 years after all!
 
For me long term thinking is required.

If Leicester win this they will be top seeds in cl group but have **** all hope imo of getting out of group

If spurs get the league they've half a chance of getting out of a cl group. Ok they've bottled europa every time they meet anyone even half scary but they could get out of a group where the 3rd and 4th seeds are not scary.

If we also see Utd in there they could be 3rd seeds if unlucky as Leicester will push others down.

Spurs are show ins but will be 3rd seeds.

So..... by end of next season I can see england losing its 4th cl spot.

If Leicester are 2nd they will be 4th seeds in the cl groups so might get europa if we are lucky.

I'm backing spurs for this reason... I don't give a toss about inter club rivalry or spurs fans



We're losing our spot anyway and Leicester can't do much worse in Europe than Spurs.
 
Might not. We are mediocre in Europe with Spain utterly dominant at the moment but the Italians are worse than us!

The problem for us is that Italy outscored us by 5.5 (ish) co efficient points in 14/15 season. Means the gap will be closed from 4 co-efficient points to almost 0.5 points (worst case scenario for us as LFC & MCFC could still pick up a few points) because of the 11/12 season dropping off the calculations. As long as that is in the equation Italy have a massive advantage over us and we need to do significantly better than them every season, not match them to keep the spot.
 
The problem for us is that Italy outscored us by 5.5 (ish) co efficient points in 14/15 season. Means the gap will be closed from 4 co-efficient points to almost 0.5 points (worst case scenario for us as LFC & MCFC could still pick up a few points) because of the 11/12 season dropping off the calculations. As long as that is in the equation Italy have a massive advantage over us and we need to do significantly better than them every season, not match them to keep the spot.

The 14/15 season will cost us at the start of the 2018 season:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2018.html

Until then we start with a small gap (that may get bigger) next year:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2017.html
depending how City and Pool affect this years ranking:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/ccoef2016.html

We have outscored them in every other season (bar 14/15) since 05/06 so hopefully can continue that trend by a big enough margin to offset the 14/15 season.

They still have only 3 teams in the CL (which has more bonus points than the EL) and Juve excepted, their teams are as mediocre as ours, so we have a decent chance.
 
You never know, may suprise a few like this season.

And they deserve the chance to try to get out of a CL group, Utd and Pool couldn't do it in the last 2 years after all!

I think personally they will run out of ground pretty quick

why?

1. they'd need to buy about 6 players just to be able to manage the two games a week

2. they've had a great run with one game a week having thrown the cup and frankly barring vardy having a little op they have no real set backs in injuries

3. huth at back?

bascially its only going to get harder for them and they can break everything that made them good this year by buying players to play 6 group games.

It depends who they get as 2nd and 3rd seeds... remember. dortmund, real, roma, etc etc will all be second seeds based on clu coefficients

If leicester get a nice 4th seed I think they can beat them but then who do they get as 3rd seeds?

big big ask for leicester IMO.

Bascially schmeichal is ok keeper, pretty good. Their defenders are no great shakes, midfield are decent but kante is a class above, drinkwater has done well but hes not a top 4 player... mahrez has been brilliant. Vardy has been very effective.

You can't just expect to beat proper well drilled sides (and no the prem has very to compare with european sides)
 
The 14/15 season will cost us at the start of the 2018 season:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2018.html

Until then we start with a small gap (that may get bigger) next year:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2017.html
depending how City and Pool affect this years ranking:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/ccoef2016.html

We have outscored them in every other season (bar 14/15) since 05/06 so hopefully can continue that trend by a big enough margin to offset the 14/15 season.

They still have only 3 teams in the CL (which has more bonus points than the EL) and Juve excepted, their teams are as mediocre as ours, so we have a decent chance.

Look this is all true but hey... arsenal could win the CL next ye.... oh hang on... yeah... we are ****ed.

and no that joke can't be told too many times.

Theres a huge issue with one single season so in reality england needs LFC to beat dortmund and city to beat PSG this year and then next year we desperately need ANYONE to go further than juve,
 
Leicester have done fantastic this season but let's not forget it's been an off season for all the regular James.

It's unlikely they'll go far in Europe or break top 4 again next season.

I hope I'm wrong, I'd be quite happy with them surprising the Champions League regulars for England... But I can't see them getting beyond group stages or finishing top 6 in league next year.

Their players will be poached. They won't start the season off with the advantage of being underestimated to get a morale and inertia boost and big teams are unlikely to be as Crap again.
 
Leicester have done fantastic this season but let's not forget it's been an off season for all the regular James.

It's unlikely they'll go far in Europe or break top 4 again next season.

I hope I'm wrong, I'd be quite happy with them surprising the Champions League regulars for England... But I can't see them getting beyond group stages or finishing top 6 in league next year.

Their players will be poached. They won't start the season off with the advantage of being underestimated to get a morale and inertia boost and big teams are unlikely to be as Crap again.

People forget this is a bunch of guys on 30k or less having a miracle. The minute their 4 best players are offered 120k they won't stay.

Vardy signed a new deal which was great though but...... Kante and mahrez will they?
 
spurs board shaking in their boots at the prospect of us putting the final nail in their title coffin, All crying because pretty much everyone wants Leicester to lift it <laugh>

I hope we either A, demolish them 6-0
or
B, rob them with a dodgy pen or sending off ect
 
spurs board shaking in their boots at the prospect of us putting the final nail in their title coffin, All crying because pretty much everyone wants Leicester to lift it <laugh>

I hope we either A, demolish them 6-0
or
B, rob them with a dodgy pen or sending off ect



I want 6-0. The extra GD could help us.


That said... We won't win 6-0.
 
The problem for us is that Italy outscored us by 5.5 (ish) co efficient points in 14/15 season. Means the gap will be closed from 4 co-efficient points to almost 0.5 points (worst case scenario for us as LFC & MCFC could still pick up a few points) because of the 11/12 season dropping off the calculations. As long as that is in the equation Italy have a massive advantage over us and we need to do significantly better than them every season, not match them to keep the spot.

yes. someone has to get to a european final.
 
spurs board shaking in their boots at the prospect of us putting the final nail in their title coffin, All crying because pretty much everyone wants Leicester to lift it <laugh>

I hope we either A, demolish them 6-0
or
B, rob them with a dodgy pen or sending off ect

I'd take robbing them on a dodgy late pen for sure.
 
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Look this is all true but hey... arsenal could win the CL next ye.... oh hang on... yeah... we are ****ed.

and no that joke can't be told too many times.

Theres a huge issue with one single season so in reality england needs LFC to beat dortmund and city to beat PSG this year and then next year we desperately need ANYONE to go further than juve,

That's not happening. Pool are underdogs with a chance but City are ****ed with their injuries. Any weaknesses will be found out in the last 8 of the CL