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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

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    Oh God, what a choice, Guillotine Gideon or Barmy Boris, kinda makes me wish that Cameron would carry on.
     
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  3. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    So the Smith twins, Ian and Duncan** have quit. They've backed the Tories on the reductions to the disabled and those unable to work, for years. They have always said they came from a working class background and for quite some time I wondered how they have been able to square the circle. Well they couldn't.

    ** Thank you Ian Hislop.
     
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    Ergh.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly no fan of Cameron, but those other two are a whole new level of ergh!
     
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    Iain Duncan Smith getting ripped on The Last Leg.
     
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    Children are essentially a captive audience.
    I know plenty of adults who don't watch the news or read newspapers for example.

    Plus sugar tastes great. It wouldn't be dangerous if we didn't like it. Plenty of sugar free products bomb.
     
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    Corbyn's gone completely over the top. Hardly a government in complete disarray.
     
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    How does that song go?
    Fetch my gun, my son and shoot the Tory scum......

    Only joking. Shooting's too good for them. :emoticon-0169-dance:emoticon-0170-ninja
     
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    Politics thread on the Saints Not606 forum? Whatever next.

    Haven't read much past the usual Tory bashing hatred so I'll make one post and leave it at that. After all political differences have nothing to do with the fact we are all Saints fans.

    IDS' resignation is more against Osborne than against his disagreement with policy. It is plain and simple to damage Osborne's leadership chances and if it looks bad on the remain camp at the same time then all the better.

    I am proud to be a Tory voter. And proud to be firmly in the leave camp. Living in the East Mids being told I am a Lazy Brit whilst not being able to get a **** job because EU migrant agency workers are given the preferment has left many people like myself and their families with a total feeling of inadequacy of having to rely on free handouts from the state to live quite comfortably.

    So I am one that blames Labour for its disastrous decision to allow a free for all in terms of free movement of labour in the first place when every other country placed limitations and restrictions. I blame Labour for giving out far too generous handouts (they are generous if you live in the Northern traditional Labour seats) which have left many families stuck in a cycle of worthlessness with no way of getting out because you are told you are too lazy to be considered for a NWM job. And I blame Labour for their continued policy of telling everyone that they are in poverty whether they are or not because there are a lot of people with a lot of stuff that actually believe they are struggling with the 'cost of living' because that is what they are told every day.

    Hope we win on Saturday and I shall leave my political posting at the Spectator where it normally is :)
     
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    Because most of those Parents think more of their personal gossip, facebook and Corrie time than they do of making something healthy. There are a lot of them about and a sugar tax isn't going to stop them. They were buying pepsi and Coca Cola anyway. If 20p was going to make a difference don't you think they'd have bought a cheaper Cola years ago?
     
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    I agree with you on IDS' resignation - it wasn't on the proposed cuts to disability payments, but it was convenient for him to resign and do some damage.

    On your other points, I couldn't be further away from you I'm afraid.

    Up the Saints :)
     
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    <laugh> I'll let you know if I weigh a stone less in ten years. I'd rather not wait that long, but at this point in my life I'll take what I can get.
     
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    Nadine,
    Oh honey is that you?
    Seems like every time I see you baby
    you got something else to do

    One for the Chuck Berry fans
     
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    Oh it is. Already torn down the middle over Europe, the tories are on the brink of civil war over cuts, most of which have barely started to take effect yet. Without the lib dems to restrain Osbourne's fiscal fundamentalism, and with the Labour Party currently largely turned in on itself, the only opposition to the Tory right will have to come from the Tory left. Expect a torrid summer.
     
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    Yep. IDS has overseen swinging cuts to vunerable people over the last year or two. I think he is however basically a loyal man who would've hung on in there if Osborne and 'call me Dave' hadn't made him out to be a prize plum by insisting he support them over the last week only to crumble in the face of public criticism.

    There is also a theory that he'd gone native (as much as someone with his highly privileged background and situation could) after seeing first hand the realility for many on benefits. After all this bit of sillyness was prompted by the Gov finding out that there were far more people entitled to help than they thought, it wasn't just a bunch of skivers screwing the system.
     
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    Interesting comments on the BBC live feed from Frank Field (Labour MP) and Tim Montgomerie (Times political columnist).

    Field: http://bbc.in/1RsCaEs
    Montgomerie: http://bbc.in/22tIHqc

    I tend to agree with this idea but it's unlikely to happen. Pension reform is a politically toxic area - old people vote and the young don't (very broadly speaking).
     
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    Do you think this one has a Coupe de Ville? :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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