I have to say I find your comments, if genuinely held and not just wumming, quite distasteful in their insinuations. We have in Johnson a 27yo man grooming and engaging in sexual activity with a 15yo girl full well knowing that she was a 15 yo girl. We have in you someone who seems to be suggesting that it's not all that bad really and that most men have probably done it.
I doubt that many 27yo men engage in what Johnson has pleaded guilty to nor would they. Age and knowledge is a very important factor in this case. Firstly, the girl's age of 15 yo and the fact that Johnson knew this. Secondly, Johnson is not some tipsy/drunk 18 yo man at a nightclub who didn't realise her age, he was 27 yo. Thirdly, he has admitted "grooming" her which is an offence which includes knowledge and deliberate intent. Excerpt below from Government website.
"To combat increasing sexual approaches to children on-line, there is a new offence of meeting a child following sexual grooming. This makes it a crime to befriend a child on the Internet or by other means and meet or intend to meet the child with the intention of abusing them. The maximum sentence is 10 years imprisonment."
The man is disgusting and not worthy of being called a man. Anyone who attempts to minimise what he has done needs to look very closely at their own standards of behaviour. Just because there are worse incidents of sexual offences does not make this any the less serious. He is scum and merits all that he receives when he is sentenced. I hope he is imprisoned as I believe it is a serious offence and that young girls need protecting from themselves and scum like him.
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Child abuse, is child abuse, whether the victim is 5, 10 or 15. There is no mitigation here, no defence. He's admitted grooming the victim, kissing her passionately and being aroused. He was planning to go a lot further. The girls behaviour in this is irrelevant. In the eyes of the law she is a child. As a mature adult, Johnson should have stayed well clear. He hasn't and is rightly in court. Anyone defending his behaviour should really be watched closely by the authorities as they themselves probably pose a danger to children.
Well said both of you.
Of course you are, but try to keep your thoughts realistic, none of us are angels, where would you put his offence on a scale of *****philes you have read or heard about, ( Jimmy Saville Rolf Harris and others ) do you,as you point out believe he is being singled out because he was a Sunderland player
There is a scale of wrongdoing, and that will be reflected in the sentence. However, being at a 'better' point on the scale does not make what he has done any less serious. It is the same for any offence. Just because there are worse offenders out there (either now or historically) does not take away the wrongness of what AJ has done. He is a grown man who knowingly and willingly took advantage of a child. Like others have said, if he was a younger man himself with a much smaller age difference, and if he had been unaware of the crime he was committing, then that may have been mitigation (mitigation not pardon). None of that applies in this case though.
The comparison with Saville seems more than a little irrelevant. You could extend the example out and apply it to other offences to show how silly your argument is. If AJ had committed a murder in cold blood (a relevant wording in that it was planned and done in full knowledge of being wrong) then we would not be condoning him and saying 'well at least he isn't a mass murderer'. We wouldn't be letting him off the hook because he wasn't a serial killer. We would probably expect mass murderers and serial killers to get more severe sentences (ie never being eligible for release), but we wouldn't be expecting anything less than an extremely severe sentence. If he had met her in a club and thought she was 18 then we may well think there were some extenuating circumstances, just as we would for an accidental killing that would be classed as manslaughter. Even manslaughter is a criminal offence though.
To suggest that we are picking on him because he is a Sunderland player is beyond stupid. The same conversations would be going on regardless of what club he played for - including Newcastle United. Perhaps if you visited your own board more often then you may realise that exactly the same comments and conversations are going on on the Sunderland board too. So far you are the only person who has tried to defend him on either board!

