Yeah but immigrants, despite there being approx. 2.3 mill people from the UK 'ex pats sunning themselves around Europe. Also don't like some blokes in Europe who I have no affiliation with making up the rules, I would prefer some blokes in London who I have no affiliation with do that instead!
apparently the immigration figures have been fiddled. If they went on the number of NI nos. issued the true figure should be more than doubled. No wonder you can't move on the tube 24/7
Well, actually, I'm not saying any of that, Chaz. You are, by putting words into my mouth. I was just answering a question asked by Watford. All I know is, if we were starting our country off now, from scratch, we probably wouldn't be basing our government elections on a semi-feudal system of sending a local representative by coach and horses to Parliament. We'd try and find something a little better - even if it wasn't perfect - just better. Just because we've always done it this way doesn't make it right, and the drop-off in voting numbers seems to support that. People don't vote because they don't think their vote can make a difference. We all deserve a system where it does.
Yeah my daughter got an NI number this year because she turned 16. ****ing immigrant, I should kick her out. Just because she was born in Isleworth doesn't make her British. The NI numbers issued include everyone who turned 16, not just immigrants. But apparently Nigel Farage decided to lie about this yesterday, like he lied about the non existent plan to give Turkey membership of the EU in 5 years. The discussions have stopped, because the French and Germans (not Cameron who was very keen to get the Turks in) aren't happy with a multitude of things. And they can't continue because they miss loads of the human rights requirements. Won't stop Goldie worrying about 75 million Turks at the bottom of his garden by Tuesday week though.
what was flawed finglas was the Irish vote a few years back, the one you had to retake until you got the result your EU Masters wanted. Up Galway!
I was directly responding to your point that you didn't see where the House of Lords sits within the PR system and the solution to local representation you outlined. I showed where it does, with the 'unelected' house checking the 'elected' house. With PR and a local representative house sat beneath Parliament, you will have an 'elected' house of representatives applying checks to an 'unelected' house of parliament. So basically the functions that the two houses undertake today will switch round.
Yes we voted twice on the Nice treaty. Like a true democracy, at least we got to vote on it and nobody forced anybody to vote for something they didn't want. Big Boris is advocating that the UK might get to vote twice on it's membership of the EU. There is nothing wrong with voting twice on something. Who are Galway? Up the Champions.
and my dear old mum God Bless, a Carlow girl who served in the NAAFI. Regaled me on her exploits during the war and her love of dancing, blitz or no blitz. Although she did admit, dancing with the crazy Canadians was more frightening than what the Luftwaffe dropped
We had to do it a second time twice, the first time was the Nice treaty, which we rejected and then voted again to accept, and then along came the Lisbon treaty and the same thing happened again, rejected and subsequently accepted....
I distinguish the Russians from the West because they were attacked without declaration of war. If they had not been attacked, Stalin would almost certainly not have entered the war, indeed Molotov had signed a peace treaty with Ribbontrop not long before Operation Barbarossa.
Sure I can. I've said my piece and expressed my views on the current electoral system, how I feel disenfranchised by it and what system might change the way I feel. I've responded to your comments as best I can. I'd be interested in your own views if you'd care to share them.
I didn't forget them. If we're looking for some moral high ground, its with the UK and France, and particularly the US (despite Pearl Harbour, because they could have just fought in the Pacific). It does not lie with Russia. Stalin entered a pact with Hitler for God's sake! He was an aggressor. He wanted to divide up Poland with Nazi Germany.
