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Match Day Thread Sheffield Weds v QPR

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by QPR999, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Woodyhoopleson

    Woodyhoopleson Well-Known Member

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    Given that the general consensus at the start of this term was at least a couple of seasons of starting again and re- building, I'm surprised by the lack of patience.
    I've not seen much of us this season, so I bow to better judgement, but it seems we're getting what we expected.
    I reckon we've got to give Jimmy a good crack at this.
    We may have rode our luck last night, but you'd expect that away against a decent side.
    If a keeper earns you a point, then that's a battle you won on the day - Smithies was better than their boys (except once).
     
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  2. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    To me, the difference is, Ramsey was never qualified to do be the First Team Coach. JFH has had some experience at a club one league below in that role. Ramsey had zero experience and that is was why I personally was intolerant towards him.
     
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  3. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    I go to all of the home games and a few away Ossie. The home game against Ipswich is the only time I've seen us play decently under Hasselbaink.
     
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    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Ramsey is certainly qualified enough. He has every coaching badge under the sun. Take a look at the Spurs team and see all the young talent that is now emerging. Guess who that was down to? Hasselbaink is performing worse than Ramsey did, but some of the abuse he was getting at the time was appalling. Ramsey was following his remit. Hasselbaink has failed in his and is now ironically working to the same one that Ramsey was given.
     
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  5. Star of David Bardsley

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    Fulham excepted, I think we've been a fair bit better under Hasselbaink than Ramsey.
     
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  6. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    Ramsey never managed a club's first team. Coaching badges help you coach. They don't help you manage., Managing 16 year old kids and managing a Joey Barton type (opinionated know it all) on £70K a week are entirely two different things and Ramsey proved he couldn't do it. I'm not saying JFH's results are any better but at least he is somewhat qualified to do the job.
     
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  7. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    I'm not saying either of them are perfect either mate but I think Hasselbaink isn't qualified enough either. I hope to be proven wrong.
     
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  8. finglasqpr

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    I hope you're wrong too lol. I am prepared to give him a bit more time. I admit his experience at Burton is limited but at least he has managed a league club before he came to us.
     
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  9. Tramore Ranger

    Tramore Ranger Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    He also managed a club in Belgium prior to taking over at Burton, so he does have a tad more managerial experience than some are giving him credit for......
     
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    ???
     
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  11. QPR Oslo

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    Hoops!
     
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  12. Jimbo ranger

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    Don't know who you have been watching genuinely
     
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  13. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    The same matches I have Jimbo.......do you not remember how wide open our defense was under Ramsey.....do you not remember how dependant we were on Charlie......I am not saying all our problems have gone...all I am saying it is better than it was in October- November under Ramsey
     
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  14. GoldhawkRoad

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    We've got Hasselbaink and it won't change this season. As a rookie manager in this division, his fear of failure is reflected in the way we play. We won't go down. We won't go up. He'll have the summer to reshuffle the squad, and next season, the first 10 games will be his big test.
     
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    I believe those were Owls choice highlights.
     
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    I have to agree, also Burton Albian seem to be doing very well without Jimmy, still sitting pretty at top of league one.

    I'm not in anyway trying to say Jimmy doesn't deserve any credit for that.

    I do think we have exhausted any other option now than to let Jimmy have at least a couple of years at the healm.

    A workman is only as good as the tools he's given. They must have a good set of tools at Burton right now, but do at ours I'm not so sure?
     
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    I hope so because if not the bloke i have had beers with at home and away games is an imposter. <doh>
     
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    QPR mostly. Not saying we've been good under Hasselbaink but utter shambles like Fulham away, Brentford away and Birmingham away have been rarer or at least it's seemed that way.
     
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  19. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    That statement makes me sound like I drink too much!!! :emoticon-0101-sadsm

    And then I found Ellers :emoticon-0169-dance :emoticon-0169-dance :emoticon-0169-dance <laugh>
     
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  20. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    I'll raise you ... You're three away games to my two home and one away. Fulham at home, Hull at home and Ipswich away. Your three games were all away. Two of the three I mentioned were at home. All as bad or as comical as those you've mentioned Wat's.

    Regardless of the tit for tat, we have lost 23 points from winning positions this season. Whatever we thought of Ramsey or think of JFH it's and the club it's an utter and complete bloody shambles.

    I'll still be there on Saturday though. Probably looking forward to the pub and the rugby afterwards in truth more than the football.
     
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