Indeed. I think what I am trying to get at it is never all one side or another. It is always a mixture of factors and both extremes are IMO wrong. With Moyes, it was obvious to most that both players and himself had been at fault. In the end Moyes lost the respect of the players and the result was catastrophic. With LVG, we could see that LVG was responsible for setting up the style. But the players should also bear some responsibility to a certain extent for not using their initiative (and now we read (!) in the papers that the players want him gone. His results, style and now the loss of the players (if true) and the fans make his position untenanble. With Klopp he is in the honey moon period, every single setback (and they have been performing **** for the last 7 matches) is the fault of solely the players. Klopp is not to blame as he is a genius and can do no wrong. But as Astroturd (albeit unwittingly) said his failures have been and tend to be ignored because he is media savvy compared to Rodgers. The fact that he has never managed in the premiership tend to be completely ignored.
Was thinking this. How do we know Klopp doesn't have a plan eh, and this is him putting it in place? Let's face it, we're all too old and not itk enough to be aware of van Gaal's plan so how we going to know of Klopp's plan? The biggest irony is the person who started this thread for **** sake! Written Klopp off after a couple of months yet still droning on about some plan with our manager after two seasons. The big difference is that Liverpool's players are ****e and Klopp didn't buy them whereas ours are not ****e and van Gaal did assemble them. Results very similar though.
Yeh but, do you even know what you're talking about. I think not, check back with me when you do. Thanks old man.
I wasn't on line yesterday. Went to watch Swansea v West Ham. Not that I had the first clue about what I was watching of course, it was truly baffling. Nothing like the 80's for **** sake. Once I'd got home and checked the stats it all became clear though, Swansea won as they had 70% possession.
I went to a game recently and they allowed a player who hadn't started the game to come on to the pitch and another player who had started the game went off. WTF is that all about?!
In my day if a player needed a poo during a game he just shat on the pitch. The true greats didn't even stop, they shat while they ran. They were real men back then.
stats wise this season BR had 1.5 points per match Flopp 1.3 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/liverpool-worse-record-under-jurgen-7049343
Can't offend you Stan. Just cause something to cut you deep so that you spend months going back to it... There's some truth in it though. Really helped the next generation loads.
Months? You only made that comment about the worst generation last night! I found it funny as it lumped the rest of your self appointed Team UIR (plus many of the other United posters) in with me! I bet they're all as "offended" as I am! You're so busy throwing windmills at all comers that you get very muddled up! To be fair your generation of stream watchers is what real football support is all about!
You're still crying over me wanting Moyes sacked you tit. Nearly two years and you still haven't let it go you sorry excuse for a man. Pathetic
Angry UIR enters the room windmilling wildly. He hallucinates and hears voices. His keyboard takes the mother of all bashings.
I find this post interesting. I was living in Spain and not posting on this forum when you apparently were on your Moyes out campaign so I didn't see any of your posts, sorry. You'll be pleased to hear that the Stan like voices in your head were providing you with duff information. I wanted the fella gone just after the new year.
You and two other posters made the claim while I was celebrating Moyes getting the boot. 3 points if you can guess the other two. And did you locate those quotes yet? Been a long time now and all your managed is nothing. Starting to suspect youre somewhat deluded. Have you not mistaken me for one of your pals on here that you bicker with daily?
OK, I wasn't posting on the forum at the time but if you say so then it must be true! I don't know who the other two are. As I may have mentioned, I wasn't posting on the forum at the time. I'll happily dig out some posts. What are they about? I've asked you a number of times but you refuse to answer for some reason (I think I know he reason, you have form for it!).
Were you. That's funny, there's a No One Famous posting throughout that season. Maybe you just stayed logged in? Amatuer mistake there.
