Listening to a brief interview the other day, I got the impression that Fury is happy now he has done what he set out to achieve (World Champion), making a fortune in the process, doesn't need the money and certainly doesn't want "leaches" making money out of him. Almost sounded like he'll give Klits his return and then retire. I'm not convinced the return bout will happen. As regards the Joshua fight, it's all included in the 1 Euro forked out for the Fury fight so I'll be watching that, even though I don't expect it to go beyond round 1.
Would it be fair to say that Fury is a rather strange character? Saw the fight, thought it was awful, frankly. All Klitschko could do was to try and get Fury in a stranglehold, no points there. What on earth would Marciano, Joe Frazier, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, et al, (let alone Mhd. Ali) have done with either of them? I dread to think. I have read the comments on here and think posters have been extraordinarily generous in their praise. But, what the hell, I know ****-all about Boxing, and anything else anyone chooses to think of! My old Dad was a great boxing fan, used to take me as a kid to watch fights at the London temples. Do remember, these places used to stink like hell. Giorgio Armani would have had a field day selling his scented sprays!
Swan your right, there was not a decent punch landed in 12 rounds. In my lifetime Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, and half a dozen others would of made short work of those 2 the other night. I think Bruno would take out Fury without a lot of fuss.
I think that's a good shout Swan, this said I do think most are not praising Fury's performance as a great boxing performance but in fighting the perfect fight to win. He made a very efficient and decent champion look to have no idea, and that took a perfect game plan. I agree the great fighters from yesterday would have taken both with minimum of fuss (not sure about Frank Bruno). I think one of the problems is that the boxing gyms that used to attract youngsters inclined to a tear up are now being forgotten in favour of MMA and this means the numbers are not coming through the ranks that we need to find the gems. If you are a young lad now your mates are not talking about the boxing but the UFC, and so when they look to channel their raw ability into a disciplined gym they head to the nearest MMA gym.
Agree with Fury being a poor champion in the context of things, but he was good enough on the night, which is what matters most to him. Fury and Bruno, would have been interesting, I think that's a very debatable one. Perhaps would lean towards Fury, as he has a boxing brain, for all his weaknesses! Big Frank, not so much!
Keep thinking the same thing since last Saturday- just what does this do for the Klitschko legacy? I've always thought he beat some serious cannon fodder but respected him as he has only beaten what's in front of him. But the first guy to take away his jab and he folded like a pack of cards.
I think you are underestimating Fury. He has a 6" height advantage and a 3" reach advantage over Bruno. He's faster than Bruno. I doubt Bruno would have beaten him. Bruno would have got kod by Klits.
Wlad is 39 and past his best of 4-5 years ago. I would put good money on Frank beating Fury, Fury has beat nobody except a past it Wlad and even that win was not very convincing. Lewis was 6ft5 and Frank out boxed him until he ran out of steam and got caught, and Lewis light years ahead of Fury skill wise. Fury i do not think is 6ft9 but actually 6ft7.
Yep, Bluesky, agree there, Fury did exactly what was required to beat Klitschko, and did it well. On the Bruno comments above, I'm not sure about that, difficult question.
The Fury plan was sheer genius, it was probably one of the most intelligent game plans we've seen in ages. That said though, I believe the champion is better than a lot give him credit for, and I think time will frank his legacy. There are possibly only three people in the world who think he has a killer punch, but he doesn't need one. There have been a load of champions who can't smack like Smokin' Joe or Iron Mike, but who are considered decent fighters. Ali wasn't a heavy handed fighter. (And I'm not trying to say that Fury is another Ali.) The point is that Fury is unique in his own right. There are very few men of his size who can do what he does. As ugly as the bout was, it was a masterclass when it came to defensive, technical skills. Watch the fight again and concentrate on those skills alone, he's amazing. His head and upper body movement are brilliant. Marry that to the speed he has around the ring, his stamina, height and reach, and you have to ask yourself. "How do we get to the ****er?" It's all to easy to say that Klitschko was well past his prime, that may be true, but I don't think he'd exactly fallen off the planet in the 7 months since his one sided win over Jennings. Vlad has always been a one dimensional fighter. Stay away, flick out the ramrod jab and throw a booming right hand over the top. Critics have for ages been saying that's he a boring fighter. He is, but he found a way to make his talents work for him, just as Fury has done for himself. I have serious doubts whether Vlad at his best could beat Fury at his peak. I think at the moment, the only person who could bring Fury undone, is himself. He's a clever ****, and if he keeps doing what he does best, he could be around for quite some time. And if that happens, his status will rise. He'll still have his knockers, those who will want to see him smashed every time he steps into the ring, but that's life isn't it?
Only time will tell Cyc. I personally think that was a one off performance by Fury. He'd shown nothing previously to suggest he had that in him. Wlad may be past is prime but that's no excuse, he didn't have any answers for fury's game plan. Anyone who says that they honestly knew Fury would win are kidding themselves. People who backed Fury did so because: 1. He's British and so are they and supporting their fellow country man. 2. They can't stand Wlad, so we're just hoping he'd finally get beat. 3. Or they saw that 4/1 looked decent value and backed it on the premises of 'what if'. I don't think I've made any secret of my disdain and dislike for Fury, but it isn't fair for people to start picking apart his victory. He went out there had a game plan excecuted it and beat the best heavyweight in the world. Make no mistake about it this was a huge huge upset and I for one really hope the rematch happens. The first fight was as bad as a boxing match I've ever seen, but I'm looking forward to the rematch because it will be the end of one of them. Either Wlad wins and shows it was a one off or Fury wins, cements his legacy a little bit more and sends the last Klitschko into retirement. As for Wlad and Vitali I think they will go down in history has great heavyweights but will always be ones that divide opinion. In my opinion Larry Holmes is one of the most overrated heavyweights that there has ever been. He dominated a weak era but beat everything that was put in front of him. Hes also a fighter that divides opinion I've got friends who'd have him in the all time top 5, and I've got friends, who like me wouldn't have in the top 25. I think both klitschkos will go down in history being remembered and argued about in a similar way.
It seems that Degale is now calling out GGG to move up to Super Middle to fight him. He's either too brave for his for his own good or he's very stupid . But I can't help but like this kid despite his bravado . He's a very talented guy who I thought would fall by the wayside after the Groves defeat . Credit to him as he picked himself and is now showing the world he may become an elite level fighter one day .
Sorry mate that's such crap! Just because a clued up boxing fan like you, who clearly knows his stuff and history, didn't fancy Fury doesn't mean other hardcore boxing fans didn't! Steve Bunce really fancied him, he knows his stuff I'm sure you'd agree. Pro boxer Billy Joe Saunders had £5000 on Fury. As I've said a guy who knows his boxing inside outside out hugely fancied an upset and put his money where his mouth is. There were plenty knew this was going to be a difficult night for the Champ, it was never that big an upset. You claimed earlier it would be on a par with Buster Douglas beating Tyson, pretty sure Douglas wasn't priced as short as 3/1 like Fury was! (Might be missing another 3 there in fact!) Plenty saw this coming. I hasten to add I wasn't one, but I knew it wasn't a forlorn hope that the Gypsy Warrior would humble the super Champion!
My apologies Beefy maybe how I phrased that wasn't the best. Of course there will have been some people who fancied Fury or he would have been 400/1. I should have said 'most people'. You're quite right to pull me on that
Tyson Fury has been stripped of his IBF title. He'd been mandated to fight Ukrainian Vyacheslav Glazkov, but as Fury has decided to take on Vlad Klitschko in the rematch, the IBF have kissed him goodbye. That vacated title will now be decided between the two unbeaten men, Glazkov and Charles Martin of the USA.
