Off Topic France under attack

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George Galloway on the Politics show late last night called IS a 'Death Cult' he's getting close but the better descriptive is 'Demonic Cult', based on 'Satanic verses', and the evidence for this is on a daily basis from IS. Islam is demonic to the core.............<ok>
 
Matthew Bound Still Lurks said:
You cannot separate belief from religion or vice versa ,they are one .We're both too old to remember but didn't Henry the V111 attempt to dissolve the monasteries but was thwarted by his subjects, particularly in the North of England, who were against the Dissolution. Catholic faith remained especially strong so even without meeting places etc their beliefs held strong In October 1536 a large rebel army of over 30,000 people marched to York and demanded that the monasteries should be reopened. This march became known as the Pilgrimage of Grace. The rebels were promised a pardon and a Parliament in York to discuss their demands, and they disbanded. However they had been tricked; Henry gave orders that the leaders of the rebellion should be arrested and around 200 people were executed.But the catholic faith i this country survived so do you be live that in this day and age people of all religions meekly accept what you're suggesting .
In 1966, the United Nations developed the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) in addition to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Article 18 of the ICCPR focuses on four elements of religious freedom:
  • Everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This right shall include freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice, and freedom, either individually or in community with others, and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in worship, observance, practice and teaching.
  • No one shall be subject to coercion which would impair his freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice.
  • Freedom to manifest one's religion or beliefs may be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.
  • The States Parties to the present Covenant undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions.
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The trouble with this situation in the period of Henry VIII (Long time ago by the way) is that religion was very powerful, and had the backing of the people, today is a completely different landscape, were in the UK for example religion has all pretty much fallen, very few Christians attend a place of worship, and 90% of Christian religious buildings have now been abandoned, or converted into Cinemas, Restaurants or Muslim places of worship, there isn't much christianity left in hedonistic Britain, and if you think that there would be much opposition to the destruction of religion in the UK, then you need to change what you are smoking Matt............<ok>
 
Beliefs even if you outlaw religion will remain and thats fundamentally thats all religion is Why must you think I'm smoking something ? just because my views are different doesn't make them any less clear and to be honest I tried it in my youth but I didn't agree with it , I'm more of a Jack Daniels man nowadays , nice from my hip flask on a cold winters day .
 
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Matthew Bound Still Lurks said:
Beliefs even if you outlaw religion will remain and thats fundamentally thats all religion is Why must you think I'm smoking something ? just because my views are different doesn't make them any less clear and to be honest I tried it in my youth but I didn't agree with it , I'm more of a Jack Daniels man nowadays , nice from my hip flask on a cold winters day .
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I had you down as a cherry brandy sort of guy Matt!…………..<laugh>
 
Andrew Neil is a bit of a luvvie at the BBC but that has to be some of his best output. Excellent. I wonder if he'll get the boot from the PC-laden Beeb? The vid is back up:

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On hedonism, Phil.....I think the West has just outgrown the idea of organised religion. That's why the churches are empty. I genuinely think it's part of human evolution ;) Unfortunately, Islam and its sheep-llike followers are about 700 years behind us as their religion is 700 years younger. A culture clash of epic proportions was bound to happen when they all came to live here. Islam doesn't fit at all with the democratic, libertarian life we enjoy.
 
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We could do with some serious evolution from Monk tomorrow, if he plays any of his atheistic strategy then we are doomed I tell thee, doomed to the realms of pre biotic soup of the Championship, and all 'hell' will be let loose on him from the Crusading Jack Army............... <laugh>
 
What you mean Phil is that we HAVE TO BELIEVE!!!:angel::angel::angel::angel:

I'll be at the game but I'm all out of belief. Bit like my theological outlook I'm afraid. A thumping win might, just might make me feel better. Praise the Lord!
 
My son feels pretty much as you do, and he is hoping we lose, so that he is fired, he thinks Monk is not up to it, he wants an experienced manager in. I was talking to someone tonight down the pub, that stated that Monk has an arrogant side to him, and he can be a right pain in the arse, and he wouldn't be surprised if Monk had upset a number of our players?
 
Didn't realise this was such a small minded, right wing board.

"Sand rats" - the people who attacked Paris were (in part) from Europe.
"Islam is demonic to the core" - no it isn't. Terrorists are demonic to the core. In the same way that the KKK are representative of all Christianity. Muslims are fundamentally peaceful. Psychopaths that have Islam as a cause, are psychopaths first.
 
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Shaper: <doh> Try educating yourself. It might help to know your subject when debating others. <ok>

This is a complex subject and calling people small minded when many, such as me, have studied the subject extensively, is out of order. It's pretty obvious you've never looked at the Qur'an or the Hadith. If I'm wrong I apologise. But also, if I'm wrong perhaps you can point to the parts that tell you Islam is not the problem.

By the way, there isn't a single post here that disagrees with your assertion that most Muslims are 'fundamentally' peaceful - even though I'm sure you didn't intend the pun. <laugh>
 
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the roofer said:
Wherever I go where I live , I'm like chameleon .I racially profile people , look at the nervousness of people , look for unusual things..I'm allowed to because nobody can control how I think as long as I don't say anything .
If to many red flags go up , I'll follow someone till I'm satisfied I'm just plain wrong.
If I' m not satisfied ! I'll follow them home .
I've been doing this for almost a year now and have three addresses written down for future reference.
Call me paranoid if you want , but at the same time , call me careful and ready.
Not sure if their Muslim , but all three look like it.
It's a free country and I'm allowed to do what I want , as long as I don't tell anyone else what I'm doing .
If anyone doesn't like it , they can suck a fart.
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You ain't allowed to do what you want no matter whether you tell anyone or not.
You are allowed to think what you want.
Very big difference imo
you have no legal right to follow anyone home...it's no different to stalking.
 
Shaper said:
Didn't realise this was such a small minded, right wing board.

"Sand rats" - the people who attacked Paris were (in part) from Europe.
"Islam is demonic to the core" - no it isn't. Terrorists are demonic to the core. In the same way that the KKK are representative of all Christianity. Muslims are fundamentally peaceful. Psychopaths that have Islam as a cause, are psychopaths first.
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in your opinion, mine is that the !!!!!! who planned,encourages and supplied the weapons and the ideology to carry out this and other attacks happen to live in a desert , calling them rats is pretty mild I'd say , I won't apologise if your sensitive conscious has been offended if you don't mind
 
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Matthew Bound Still Lurks said:
Beliefs even if you outlaw religion will remain and thats fundamentally thats all religion is Why must you think I'm smoking something ? just because my views are different doesn't make them any less clear and to be honest I tried it in my youth but I didn't agree with it , I'm more of a Jack Daniels man nowadays , nice from my hip flask on a cold winters day .
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Maybe with some, but Just for you Matt!





Washington Post Link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ris-attacks-is-it-time-to-eradicate-religion/
 
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