Off Topic France under attack

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Kifflom! said:
I'm not religious at all (you might have guessed lol) but the persecution that the Christians in Syria have suffered is awful. In some countries where there are camps many have had to leave and take refuge in churches because they suffer violence at the hands of 'innocent refugees fleeing war'. If the criteria is how vulnerable a person is they should be at the front of the queue.
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There has been terrible slaughter of Christians in the middle east and Africa at the hands of the Muslim extremists, and nothing has been said about it in the West? clearly Christianity is superfluous to requirements in this hedonistic western world, very sad indeed........<ok>
 
Great radio phone-in featuring Douglas Murray who rips Amnesty International a new one and nails the problem. Well worth 15 mins.

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The time , worry and resources being spent by authorities watching and following nationals returning from Syria and Iraq is absolutely ludicrous and shows clearly the need to drop the good guy rules .
If you go to Iraq or Syria , without good reason , you surrender your right to use your passport anywhere in the free world , simple .
ISIS 's next step will be to send returning French nationals to Germany , German nationals to Italy and so on so that Germany won't have info on the French nationals , Italy won't have info on German nationals and so on .
If the west doesn't outright stop the return of trained nationals , we will spend a shocking amount of resources with little return for resources brought to bare.
Time to stomp on "Individual Rights "for some for the greater good of most.
 
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I agree totally, Roof. But International Law forbids making a person effectively stateless. The second the UK does it we'll be taken to Court - and lose. The UN has a part to play here by getting rid of this stupid law in the interests of worldwide public safety - but we know how ineffective the UN has been in the past. The civil libertarians would be having seizures at the very thought.
 
There is a lot of talk on Twitter, radio etc about nuking the Isis stronghold areas, although I don't doubt they would do that to us given the chance it should only be used as a last resort even though it forced Japan to surrender at the end of WW2 its a different ball game today with terrorists hiding all over like the **** houses they are !

Many years ago Hezbollah kidnapped and held to ransom a member of the Soviet Embassy in Beirut. In response the External Services Department of the KGB located the family of the leader of the kidnap gang. They then returned the family to him bit by bit until the Embassy Staffer was returned, unharmed. The leader of that gang died in a car accident three months later. This was a salutory lesson for Hezbollah as they had previously kidnapped the Station Chief of the CIA, skinned him alive on video and sent his family copies. The US did not respond and Hez then thought it could get away with it with everyone.
should a Russian crew bale out over Isis territory I believe that the more alert members of that organisation would do their utmost to keep those Russians in one piece. The Russians never forgive and they never forget, see Chechnya.....or what's left of it. They learned from their mistakes in Afghanistan, hope we have too.
 
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Kifflom! said:
I agree totally, Roof. But International Law forbids making a person effectively stateless. The second the UK does it we'll be taken to Court - and lose. The UN has a part to play here by getting rid of this stupid law in the interests of worldwide public safety - but we know how ineffective the UN has been in the past. The civil libertarians would be having seizures at the very thought.
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**** international law , time to level the playing field....period!
Look at what ISIS is able to accomplish with their resources playing by their rules.
Imagine what the free world could accomplish playing by ISIS rules both home and amongst their ground taken .
Make no bones about , some innocent people will be lost , but ponder this .
When ISIS land holdings are taken back , how many innocent people do you think will be dug up from mass graves , tens of thousands I fear but suspect.
It's time !.
 
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It's a worrying time when we look to the Russians as a good example though innit ! Maybe the rest of the world are hoping that Russia does go mental on the scum just so they get their hands dirty and we don't have to live with the guilt.

"Slavery gets s h i t done" Sad but true.
 
I agree with the sentiment but it's not realistic, roof. Flouting international law can and probably will result in sanctions imposed on us by other countries, increase unemployment and damage our country - possibly irreparably - so you can' t say "**** international law", unfortunately. I honestly believe that pressure should be brought to bear at the UN by all the big players - Russia, the U.S, European countries and so on to suspend the law that prevents making a person stateless. The people want it and that's what counts.

I know that most terror attacks are from people born and bred in the country they attack but they almost always go outside the country to train - the second they do that we should cancel their passports electronically. Likewise, any person committing an act of terrorism against the UK or its citizens should be executed if convicted. Fast track the court process and the inevitable appeals that follow. I'm against the death penalty but I'll make an exception for these cockroaches. It won't stop terrorism but it would help.

As for immigration, any refugee 16 or over must be to be able to prove who they are and where they come from. If they can't - **** off. Any refugees that are not from a war-torn region - **** off. All it requires is political will and strength in the face of gut-churning leftard liberalism. Ahmad al-Mohammed, one of the Paris attackers has just been confirmed as having come through Leros in Greece in September. This has to ****ing stop. If we are taking refugees they have to be screened.

[EDIT: Just watching the BBC News Channel. Local Muslim activists in Molenbeek, Brussels, have organised a vigil in the town square for the Paris victims. Great, you'd think. Then the commentator says - "Not many Muslim people here despite us being in a predominantly Muslim area ". And people like Spurlock wonder why the so called 'moderates' are criticised!!! There are thousands of Muslims in Molenbeek. Where are they? ]
 
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It's a worrying time when we look to the Russians as a good example though innit ! Maybe the rest of the world are hoping that Russia does go mental on the scum just so they get their hands dirty and we don't have to live with the guilt.

"Slavery gets s h i t done" Sad but true.
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Churchill better than anyone knew what it meant getting into bed with Stalin but maybe now as then needs must .
 
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5 Syrian nationals have been detained in Honduras , with fake Greek passports , heading for the United States , Greece and Belgium seem to come up every ISIS movement comes up....
Trump's poll numbers will spike from this event , unfortunately . Imagine Trump being in charge during these increasing terrorist times.. Whoevers' God help us all.
 
That's a great video and I've seen it before, Matt. The voices that have warned us all about the dangers of Islam have always been shouted down.

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Not for the feint hearted but everybody in the West needs to see this video and digest what it says about this "religion"


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Animals ! Why are we letting the brainless idiots in charge to allow anyone that wants to join the invasion to head this way without at least thorough back ground checks at safe, secure holding stations outside EU first ? Complete and utter treasonous suicidal madness !!
 
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Spurlock said:
I have never ever come across a hate preacher in my local vicinity. The mosque imams on a regular basis are speaking up against what is going on and constantly warning the youth about these people and how they are war mongering, hiding behind the global enemy that is Islam. This is not just my problem,or just a Muslim problem. This is our problem...because ISIS don't represent Islam....just like EDL don't represent every white Brit...I think.

As for vocalising in person...no I won't....however many in positions of authority have done. What my job is to inform the authorities if something is suspect, me and many others will do that.

ISIS is a powerful organisation as is becoming apparent. They don't just go around Muslim communities and say ' you, you and you' your coming with us.....and these peoples parents don't say...'Yes take my son, we educated him,loved him raised him with Morals and manners for you, Lord ISIS'

It's a ****ing insult to think that's what people think it is like, all at the ****ing comfort of their armchairs.

This is an organised crime syndicate. You don't just get a bunch of mates together and go around killing people, in Friday's manner. These people recruit in a very advanced manner. You make out as though they have a stall up in the corner with some **** shouting 'sign up, sign up, who wants to be our latest suicide bomber' ****sake.....get off your arses and learn something. My passport is red, born and raised in the UK, I enjoy my fish and chips...I don't see why I have to prove myself anymore than a beer guzzling white boy to be quite frank. This is my ****ing country pal....my father was a law abiding citizen as am I...and hopefully my kids after me.

Have you ever watched interviews of the family members of these youths that have gone and joined ISIS. They don't even have a ****ing clue what is going on under their noses. They only find out when they see their kids missing one morning...and you expect and insist that some random bloke visiting the mosque is hiding info because he hasn't dobbed anyone in.

How naive...I hope that helps though...because this is about the 5th time since Friday that I have had to justify my own exhistence in this country. No wonder your eventually told to **** off by the youth....they are sick of seeing it.

So you cry about integration...how about educate yourself.

You think we sit in our homes wishing death on everyone? Hating our own country? Putting our own kids at risk? I tell you what we have said on many occasions though.....white British people are racist in a lot of subtle ways, not all but it's shocking how many. When my wife's white friends found out that she was marrying me..most of them stopped talking to her..why? It's not because I'm brown...it's because I'm a Muslim...****ing fact<ok>

It's been a good social experiment this has <ok>
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Tell me Spurlock, why are you only highlighting white Brits? You do realise Britain is a multi-cultural society don't you? More 'subtle racism' from you...

Beer guzzling white boy? That's stereotyping, the exact thing you accuse 'white brits' of doing to Muslims <doh>

Our board picked up on you playing the victim card and that you have an underlying agenda, it is as clear as day. I'm pleased to see these posters have also picked up on it.

Nobody is forcing you to justify anything either, the chip on your shoulder is making you come out and do that. You are even accusing posters of tarring all Muslims with the same brush, even though it's in your head and you can't back it up. Not sure if you have also done that on this board but I certainly wouldn't be surprised.
 
That video is disgusting, I could not watch it all as it would turn me very badly against all Muslims, but it just shows how depraved these Muslims are regarding women, this religion needs putting out of it's misery, a blight on humanity, utterly despicable..................<ok>
 
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There are many many more videos of sick ****s like them out there and a lot worse too ! If enough like minded scum like that get here our people will have no choice but to be viscous as well to drive them out too. luckily most of the scum are male so as we have something that they dont " a conscience " it wont be so hard !
 
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