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And for those who want even more of these ****ers to enter OUR country, and for the avoidance of doubt.................and we wonder why ?

The number of people arrested for terrorism-related offences has reached record levels, new figures reveal.
In the year to March, 299 terror suspects were detained - an increase of 31% on the previous year - of which 100 were charged with a terror-related offence.

It is the highest number since officials began collecting data in September 2001.

The previous peak of 284 occurred in 2005, the year of the 7 July attacks.
Among those arrested, there was a "marked increase" in the number who considered themselves to be of British or British dual nationality, officials said.
In 2014/15, they accounted for more than three-quarters of those detained for terrorism-related offences, compared with 52% in the year to March 2011.

The number of 18 to 20-year-olds arrested more than doubled on the previous year from 20 to 43, the report found.

The figures show a spike in the last three months of last year, when there were 106 arrests.
"In late 2010, the Arab Springs began, and throughout the years since the initial uprising, the number of terrorism-related arrests in Great Britain has seen a steady rise."

In 2014-15, there were 35 women arrested on terror-related offences; also a record figure and more than treble the number five years ago. Eight of those arrested were under 18.

There has also been a significant increase in the number of suspects arrested who were aged 30 and over, with a rise of more than a third compared to the previous year.

Of the 299 people arrested in 2014/15, fewer than half - or 100 - were ultimately charged with terror-related offences.

The Home Office said this was the highest proportion since records started, "suggesting that police were more frequently able to find evidence to support the link to terrorism following a terrorism-related arrest".
The total number of terror arrests in the UK since recording began 14 years ago is just under 3,000.

Last month Mark Rowley, the country's leading counter-terrorism officer, disclosed that suspects are now being held at a rate of more than one a day.
 
I see no difference between a radical nationalist (edl, Britain first etc) and a radical of a religion. There are for more radical nationalists which we should be equally worried about. As for the stats terrorism is inevitable to be conspired and takes many forms, however you cannot say that every person detained is a Muslim.

Also why would these refugees become terrorists in the name of the people they are being persecuted and seeking asylum from?

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Angelicnumber16 said:
They can go to whatever mug country takes them with my blessing as long as it's not here.

If you're that worried about it why don't you go and live in Syria and help them cross into other countries.

Don't come crying on here if you or your family/friends are ever attacked or worse by these people or their like.
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And if MTG is a female, then he can see what they are really like treating them as second class. Leaving them at home to face the bombs because the boats to freedom are unsafe.
 
Mind the gap! said:
I see no difference between a radical nationalist (edl, Britain first etc) and a radical of a religion. There are for more radical nationalists which we should be equally worried about. As for the stats terrorism is inevitable to be conspired and takes many forms, however you cannot say that every person detained is a Muslim.

Also why would these refugees become terrorists in the name of the people they are being persecuted and seeking asylum from?

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What we are talking about here is the potential for any would be Jihadist or IS sympathiser with half a brain to mingle with these refugees and obtain safe haven in any number of countries outside of Syria. Who knows, you might get one next door to you....

It will be utterly impossible for the authorities of any country to carry out any meaningful background checks on these people, who are mainly young men as per a previous post. Does that tell you nothing ?

Therefore you cannot say with any certainty that they do not mean you or I any harm. Once they have citizenship of any EU country they will be free to go where they like.

Our forefathers fought and died for us to be free so we didn't have to live under Nazi rule and occupation.

But UK goverments since 1945 have callously and conveniently forgotten all of that bloodshed and depravation that our families faced in repelling Hitler, and through sheer bad government and lax immigration rules, we have allowed tens upon tens of thousands of undesirables onto our shores and into our towns and cities.

We are now all living in the shadow of terrorism all day every day because of this ridiculous policy, and now it's too late. It's a question of when the next atrocity takes place on UK soil, not if.

Yet you still seemingly want to raise our chances of being victims of this.

Look at your fellow travellers next time you board a busy bus, train, tube, plane. Can you trust them ?
 
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All this talk of "them" and "these people" leads me right back to race and religion again. Feel free to get offended or upset that you've been "branded", but it sounds like a lot of you just don't like muslims or foreigners.

Yes, it'll be hard to sift through all the people seeking asylum, but it's the kind of thing we're actually quite good at. We have an intelligence service for a reason, and I have more faith in them than a lot of you do. The EU are all in this together, and the intelligence services of all EU countries will be scrutinising all incomers.

To be frank, I'd trust a muslim on the bus over some of the other pricks I'm forced to interact with on the bus, or some of the slack-jawed inbreds I see at Ashton Gate pissed out of their heads bitching about all these "****ing pakis" coming over here.
 
EnderMB said:
All this talk of "them" and "these people" leads me right back to race and religion again. Feel free to get offended or upset that you've been "branded", but it sounds like a lot of you just don't like muslims or foreigners.

Yes, it'll be hard to sift through all the people seeking asylum, but it's the kind of thing we're actually quite good at. We have an intelligence service for a reason, and I have more faith in them than a lot of you do. The EU are all in this together, and the intelligence services of all EU countries will be scrutinising all incomers.

To be frank, I'd trust a muslim on the bus over some of the other pricks I'm forced to interact with on the bus, or some of the slack-jawed inbreds I see at Ashton Gate pissed out of their heads bitching about all these "****ing pakis" coming over here.
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14 years ago today - remeber it?
Millions of muslims all over the world celebrated this event for weeks!!

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2012/09/muslims-celebrated-the-sep-11-attacks.html
 
EnderMB said:
All this talk of "them" and "these people" leads me right back to race and religion again. Feel free to get offended or upset that you've been "branded", but it sounds like a lot of you just don't like muslims or foreigners.

Yes, it'll be hard to sift through all the people seeking asylum, but it's the kind of thing we're actually quite good at. We have an intelligence service for a reason, and I have more faith in them than a lot of you do. The EU are all in this together, and the intelligence services of all EU countries will be scrutinising all incomers.

To be frank, I'd trust a muslim on the bus over some of the other pricks I'm forced to interact with on the bus, or some of the slack-jawed inbreds I see at Ashton Gate pissed out of their heads bitching about all these "****ing pakis" coming over here.
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Firstly I'm not offended or upset by what you say.

But my opinion is that it's people like you that have allowed this country to get into the mess it now finds itself in.

The 'no blame', and 'let's take in every lame duck without questioning' culture we've come to expect from the likes of Blair and Brown no matter how glaring and life changing the errors they'd made were.

I'm just amazed that you even seem to like football, as I'd have had you down as being someone who is probably against all competitive sport and has a 'no-one loses - everyone is a winner' attitude.
 
The world isn't black and white. It's very much grey.

Not all muslims are terrorists. People that side with the left won't necessarily side with the left on every topic. People that cycle into work don't necessarily hate motorists or agree with the 20mph zone. Some people that think immigration should be controlled might think that an exception should be made for those legitimately seeking asylum.
 
EnderMB said:
The world isn't black and white. It's very much grey.

Not all muslims are terrorists. People that side with the left won't necessarily side with the left on every topic. People that cycle into work don't necessarily hate motorists or agree with the 20mph zone. Some people that think immigration should be controlled might think that an exception should be made for those legitimately seeking asylum.
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I've never once said all Muslims are terrorists.
I seem to remember an outfit called the IRA that spread terror and division in the name of religion. They weren't Muslim and nor were Bader Meinhof or Black September or anyone else within Europe.

An exception could be made for those seeking temporary refuge (not asylum) were the country not currently able to adequately house or properly care for the citizens we already have.
 
Angelicnumber16 said:
I've never once said all Muslims are terrorists.
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Then what do you mean by "those" ****ers entering "our" country? On the face of it, that sounds like either a race or a religion thing to me.

Angelicnumber16 said:
An exception could be made for those seeking temporary refuge (not asylum) were the country not currently able to adequately house or properly care for the citizens we already have.
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I'd rather have immigration controlled than have people come over illegally and be forced into crime by those that smuggle them into this country.

The handling of this whole thing has been very poor, and to be frank, the only reason we're looking to take in our fair share now is because the pressed for it by publishing the picture of the dead kid. My hope is that by taking in asylum seekers, it will force the government to push a real dialogue towards discussing immigration and the EU. I'm all for the EU, but I think that immigration needs to be controlled to ensure that countries can look after those that choose to live there.
 
EnderMB said:
Then what do you mean by "those" ****ers entering "our" country? On the face of it, that sounds like either a race or a religion thing to me.



I'd rather have immigration controlled than have people come over illegally and be forced into crime by those that smuggle them into this country.

The handling of this whole thing has been very poor, and to be frank, the only reason we're looking to take in our fair share now is because the pressed for it by publishing the picture of the dead kid. My hope is that by taking in asylum seekers, it will force the government to push a real dialogue towards discussing immigration and the EU. I'm all for the EU, but I think that immigration needs to be controlled to ensure that countries can look after those that choose to live there.
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I mean anyone from anywhere of any race or religion who has, or will enter the country legally or illegally, and who means us harm, or who will be given preferential treatment or housing where British families should have priority.

We continue to face a national housing crisis, we have British families living in poverty, we don't have full employment, and we are ruining the once beautiful countryside by building yet more and more houses, and expanding already congested roads that are full to bursting already, so these are good reasons why we should stop immigration completely and utterly.

If the wide open spaces of Bavaria and Sweden are attractive to Syrians and countries such as Germany, France and other seem to want them, then great. I'm all for donating surplus clothes to the Red Cross but no to more people.

Plenty of room elsewhere in the world.
 
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I mean anyone from anywhere of any race or religion who has, or will enter the country legally or illegally, and who means us harm, or who will be given preferential treatment or housing where British families should have priority
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He has been told that on several occasions now, you're wasting your time. Every time you spell it out clearly, they muddy the waters again with the 'racist' card, no matter how many time you explain it it goes back to "what about British idiots" Well theres plenty of them too but at this moment in time but there not planning on suicide bombings in British shopping centres and military pageants and harming our own people. This is not fantasy but fact! they have told you squarely they will do it and many attempts have been made to do it. We won't keep getting lucky in stopping it.

Their naivety may well cost dozens, possibly hundreds of British lives because they can't seem to understand that 'these people' (and its been spelt out a hundred times who that infers) mean to harm us. and when it does this country will ignite.

Its a matter of time..
 
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The shortage of infrastructure is the fault of privatisation and failing to meet demand. Unfortunately many ****ty parties are scapegoating this on immigration. At the end of this day if some immigrant takes my future job then they deserve it because they will have worked as hard or harder than me to get there. Immigration is beneficial to the economy.

As for the refugees, you talk about declining asylum seekers because a hundered people may get killed in an attack which won't have been carried out by a refugee. But then what about the millions of people who die/ have died in Syria or in trying to reach safety.
 
Mind the gap! said:
The shortage of infrastructure is the fault of privatisation and failing to meet demand. Unfortunately many ****ty parties are scapegoating this on immigration. At the end of this day if some immigrant takes my future job then they deserve it because they will have worked as hard or harder than me to get there. Immigration is beneficial to the economy.

As for the refugees, you talk about declining asylum seekers because a hundered people may get killed in an attack which won't have been carried out by a refugee. But then what about the millions of people who die/ have died in Syria or in trying to reach safety.
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ALL of the migrants that come to the UK will most definitely head to the cities - predominantly London.
Where are we going to put them?
Nationally there are just over 1.8 million households on housing waiting lists representing 4.5 million people. London accounts for 354,000 and 886,000 of those respective figures. While this is only slightly more than would be proportionate, the London crisis has the potential to get much worse.
These stats paint a frightening picture:
  • Average private rents in London are now £1,038 per month (46% above the UK average), while the average London house price is £388,000 (72% higher than the UK average)
  • The average rental price of a three-bedroom home in London is over £20,000 per year.
Behind every one of these shocking statistics are thousands of families living in overcrowded and temporary – and often poor quality – accommodation. The impact on family life and the life opportunities of children are huge.

So again - where are you going to put this new wave of migrants that you want us to open our doors for and do you want them to jump the queue ahead of the 1.8M predominantly British people that have already been on the waiting list for many many years?
 
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