Lynchee - Lyncher 2. Gerrez - Magic, RHC 2. Astro - Milk, ACS 1. RHC - Astro 1. ACS - Style 2. Magic - Gerrez, Valley
Lynchee - Lyncher 1. Gerrez - Magic 3. Astro - Milk, ACS, RHC 1. RHC - Astro 1. ACS - Style 2. Magic - Gerrez, Valley
Or you could have just read it PS...I wanted Biscan to put us on a new team but I guess he didn't fancy it
If nev turns out to be guilty that would make sense. Of nev is innocent then people switching to obi means nothing.
Me being in the vote early could be very helpful for town, especially since it seemed that people were happy for a 3 way tie between myself, Obi and one other until Tobes turned out to be the other - and then all of a sudden some people seemed nervous of a 3 way tie. I am innocent. Obi Was innocent (confirmed). Tobes was mafia (confirmed). Who led the charge onto putting Obi clear? I stayed on Tobes despite being up for lynch myself.
Unless, in a short game, they didn't fancy losing their assassin - which he may have been judging by the description.
If it is an important role then it may be slightly different but I'd still sit it out. One in three is good odds. Equally, if its a short game the Mafia aren't required to hide as long. Would losing the assassin impact on their chances of winning? Especially when its a popular target like Tobes. I don't think yesterday does anything to help or hinder you. You were the prime target but escaped the lynch. I did the same in the last game and others have done it before too. As for whether he was the assassin or not, who knows. He had a gun on him so I think he killed Mikey but it doesn't mean he was the assassin. The Mafia may be able to choose who does what each night so we may not have destroyed their killing power.
I would but as you know I never have a strategy. A few dudes are being a bit quieter than usual though.
Someone needs to pull together our town plan. Piss taking aside, I'm more than happy to vote where I'm needed.
Lynchee - Lyncher 1. Gerrez - Magic 3. Astro - Milk, ACS, RHC 1. RHC - Astro 2. ACS - Style, Nev 2. Magic - Gerrez, Valley
OK... I need to do some catching up again. RHC appears to be claiming to be a drunk. He also claims that Gerrez knows what his role is. Why would Gerrez know RHC's role? RHC is the type that doesn't like to keep a secret. (see Cheese thread) - he wants to tell everyone everything he knows. Usually when he's town he blabs what his role is. In games I've seen when he's been Mafia he has bragged about being able to assassinate people. For now, I'm going to assume RHC is telling the truth. If he is, why would Gerrez know his role? That doesn't make sense. Of the two I tend to believe RHC (because he doesn't typically bluff- he just announces what he is). This doesn't make Gerrez guilty. RHC is probably also just wrong about Gerrez knowing his role. Or Greez is just being an arse to RHC and they're both drunks. I think it's highly possible there are multiple drunks around and they will at random spot each other out and about each night. Astro may just have been a drunk too for that matter. He did have lots of alcohol on him. Mikey, as Mayor, probably had a similar role to Medium in the last game, that's probably why he jumped on Neville when Neville announced he was a vanilla townie. There probably are no vanilla townies. Yes, I know that's effectively admitting I have a role. I do, but it's a very minor one. I suspect that everyone has a role. Remember how long night took last night? IBWT was busy! Most are probably minor, like the drunks. I suspect the drunks ARE the vanilla townies this game. Does that make Neville guilty? Not necessarily. A high ranked townie could just as easily bluff and say he was vanilla (to avoid mafia hits) as a mafia don. That said, when Neville and Tobes were leading there was a mass exodus to Obi. What if they were both Mafia. Back to RHC: This phrase is interesting. Again, something I don't see RHC making up- it's out of character for him, another reason I believe him (or if he's lying part of team and was told to say that). If that phrase is true- it makes me wonder if Bobby has that phrase too? @BobbyD can you tell us if your "drunk description" contains something similar in it's wording. If Bobby's says something similar it means RHC and Bobby are both innocent- or both in cahoots. It also would tell us if we should take the search on Astro to be 'gospel' or if it could potentially be all wrong. Run down on characters: Astro - I remain suspicous of Astro. Partially because: a) we know he has a role. He was out at night. (although as stated above, I think everyone has at least a minor role- and Astro could be another drunk, a PI, a SK, or anything with his inventory). b) Astro would be on the shortlist of people who would take out Tobes day 1 as a serial killer AFC - I don't really have much to say on AFC at the moment, I need to look back at what he's said to ascertain. If I recall he did jump on Obi even after Obi seemed a certainty. Didn't seem to want to leave it to coin toss. ACS a) ACS seemed to jump around his votes a lot. A move that looks very suspicious. Something he did last game when he was guilty. I've not played any games with ACS and this may be typical behavior for him- his actions look suspicious though. b) Like AFC jumped on Obi even after he seemed a certainty. Didn't seem to want to leave it to coin toss. Magic - Magic always says the bare minimum which is worrying because he can slip under the radar easily. Milk - No point analysing myself. Obi - Dead (No Allegiance) - Was giving off guilty signals but it appears this was all on purpose. Well played Obi! I don't think voting for Obi was suspicious but I was worried we were hitting a townie last night when SO MANY people voted for him. Tobes - Dead (Mafia) - I didn't really see much suspicious in what Tobes was doing and would be surprised if he was taken out by a vigilante. It would be reckless of a vigilante to take out someone on so little evidence. He also doesn't strike me as an obvious mafia hit. I think he was taken out by a serial killer. Mikey - Dead (Town Mayor) - Mikey's death again, no reason a vigilante would take him out. This was the action of a SK or a mafia hit. It could have been Tobes, it could have been a rival mafia team. I think Mikey knew some or all the roles. I think he knew some people's roles. I think he knew Nev wasn't vanilla townie. Style - I've not really payed much attention to style yet, I need to go back and re-read. Nev - Nev had the 'Vanilla Townie' quip. He also seemed to get everyone vacate his vote in the dying hour. He is not Vanilla townie. Bad or not, not sure, I'm beginning to lean to bad. Valley - I've not paid nearly enough attention to analysing Valley. He's been pretty quiet (but he was last game too). I need to go back and skim yesterday looking for Valley comments. Bobby - For now, I tend to believe Bobby. There would have been no reason to come out and say what he did if he was Mafia. As I said elsewhere, I think the drunks may be numerous in this game. If he can confirm or deny what RHC said about the role "sometimes being wrong" that would be fantastic. Lucas - Lucaaas is a clever boy... devious too- he's another one that tends to be too quiet to adequately judge. Can't take this as good or bad, it's just his style. He usually has some good theories- it would be nice to hear them instead of him being quiet. RHC - I tend to believe him simply because he has a hard time keeping secrets (he's probably already told Nick what he want's to do with Fiona's bottom) - RHC is a straightfoward guy who says what he means. He's not really the devious and secretivly plotting type. Bobby confirming or denying the phrasology of the "drunk role" could go a long way to help confirm this. Gerrez - I'm highly suspicious of Greez at the moment. That's in part because I think RHC is innocent, and as Astro said yesterday, it's likely one will enter from each side. Gerrez has also been blowing a lot of hot air. Gerrez, (and RHC) can you explain exactly why RHC thinks you already know his role- and does he know yours?
