they? are you talking about me? You see, in reality most people consider it absolutely reasonable to expect the police to explore other avenues before using dangerous weapons. Most people don't refer to people belonging to an organisation based on intolerance as "some of the most tolerant people you could hope to meet". not Chicarito. reaching for the plastic bullets as a first response is far more reasonable than exploring other methods first.
You don't know my friends so please don't lump them in with the people who are not like that. If they were not tolerant, decent people they would not be friends with me. Have you ever been in the extreme situation that the police were in? What would you do if the yobs were throwing petrol bombs and bricks at you?
Your friends belong to a blatantly sectarian organisation chico. have you raised this with them? and yes. I have been in extreme situations that the police have been in, and I have handled it using diplomacy. The Police in Derry used a different method in handling the situation and you know what, it worked out better for them. "any means necessary" your words chico. does that mean reaching for the nearest weapon at the earliest opportunity?
So your answer to dealing with a riot is to let them tire themselves out. I wonder if you would have the same opinion if you or a family member were dragged from your car as it was set alight.
And also. Weren't you complaining earlier about the police being lenient when it came to loyalist rioting? You didn't say that was a great method used then.
it is an answer med dog. the whole premise to this thread was that it was stupid for Gerry Kelly to suggest that the use of water cannons was premature. Given that Fr Gary Donnelan ( an eye witness) agreed with that assertion, given that this was the opening salvo by the police, then it is evidently not stupid in the slightest.
No. I didn't complain at all. I said that they weren't quick to use water cannons on that occasion. evidencing that they are at least proficient in the use of other tactics.
why? because you listen to Med dog and take his word as the gospel truth about what I have or haven't said?
that is a very simple take on it JJS. Both were highly critical of the fact that the rioters went against the wishes of the residents to show restraint.
A LIE. I never asked you about trouble in the future and I did not say anything about the 12th, I specifically asked you about the trouble that had already occurred prior to the 10th. Proof? http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/61798-Celtic-pre-season-marred-by-crowd-trouble-Yet-again!?p=783985#post783985 End of thread. Where did I mention the 12th? Oh that's right, I did'nt, YOU DID. You refused point blank to admit that there had been any trouble.
in Med dogs mind the only possible reason for not offering a response is that by offering one, you undermine your argument. Aint that right Med dog?
