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Well it's the glorious 12th and there are plenty of people acting like absolute partridges, setting things up nicely for the real SK to take one of them out.

I can understand why you're lynching me after the investigation result Sebb got, but we are playing this game as if it's a pure game of hide and seek without looking at any of the game play such as voting patterns or the kills.

I'm not going to spend ages fighting my corner as it seems fairly obvious what will happen tonight. However, for what it's worth, here's my thoughts.

As I've said I don't know if my investigate is right and Valley's is wrong or the other way round.

No Chance stated to investigate those not investigated. He also didn't point out before nightfall the plan to split innocent actions between 2 and not 3 actions after I had voted lynch. Made me suspicious. Hence reason for re-investigating him.

I agreed straight away with your plan to mix up the investigations. The fact that I didn't cover every angle in my initial post makes me no more guilty than anybody else who doesn't cover every angle in every post. I threw out an idea that made sense - that doesn't make me guilty.

The original plan was to split between 2 and not 3 actions. I assumed you knew this as you had read the thread and that your decision to choose option 3 was deliberate. I did point out that the decision to vote for MITO was suicide and assumed that inferred that it went against the plan (post 121).

I investigated Surprised Pervert on night one because I thought he looked dodgy from a couple of things he said. The investigation showed that he is innocent so now I am assuming he is innocent.

I also think Sebb must be innocent. The only way Sebb would make that announcement on day 2 would be if he had received a flipped investigation. Anything else would be crazy at this stage of the game and I don't think Sebb plays like that.

I think the following people are inactive: Nolberto, Shimmy, & Rolando (joining Tash and MITO).

That leaves suspicion on two of the following: ACS, Biscan, Gerrez, Tobes, Bobby, or Valley.

Suspicions


The back and forward of last night makes me suspicious of a team up of 2 out of 3 of Gerrez, Biscan & Tobes.

The kills make me suspicious of ACS. Whoever the SK is played the last game IMO. Look at the kill descriptions. The SK has also taken the most aggressive approach possible by killing on the first two nights. Surely the sensible thing would have been to be more cautious and start slowly.

Bobby and Valley have both voted for me tonight when they didn't need to. Is this because they don't need to worry about votes?

I have no definite info on anyone. These are just suspicions. If I had to say who I was most suspicious of it would be ACS and Gerrez. No reasoning - they just set off the two loudest alarms in my head atm.

Anyway, I'm fairly sure I'm gonna swing tonight and we'll be down to 8 innocents against 2 bad guys. You need to start using your heads. Once again the bad guys are quietly pushing us into killing off our own.
 
Well it's the glorious 12th and there are plenty of people acting like absolute partridges, setting things up nicely for the real SK to take one of them out.

I can understand why you're lynching me after the investigation result Sebb got, but we are playing this game as if it's a pure game of hide and seek without looking at any of the game play such as voting patterns or the kills.

I'm not going to spend ages fighting my corner as it seems fairly obvious what will happen tonight. However, for what it's worth, here's my thoughts.



I agreed straight away with your plan to mix up the investigations. The fact that I didn't cover every angle in my initial post makes me no more guilty than anybody else who doesn't cover every angle in every post. I threw out an idea that made sense - that doesn't make me guilty.

The original plan was to split between 2 and not 3 actions. I assumed you knew this as you had read the thread and that your decision to choose option 3 was deliberate. I did point out that the decision to vote for MITO was suicide and assumed that inferred that it went against the plan (post 121).

I investigated Surprised Pervert on night one because I thought he looked dodgy from a couple of things he said. The investigation showed that he is innocent so now I am assuming he is innocent.

I also think Sebb must be innocent. The only way Sebb would make that announcement on day 2 would be if he had received a flipped investigation. Anything else would be crazy at this stage of the game and I don't think Sebb plays like that.

I think the following people are inactive: Nolberto, Shimmy, & Rolando (joining Tash and MITO).

That leaves suspicion on two of the following: ACS, Biscan, Gerrez, Tobes, Bobby, or Valley.

Suspicions


The back and forward of last night makes me suspicious of a team up of 2 out of 3 of Gerrez, Biscan & Tobes.

The kills make me suspicious of ACS. Whoever the SK is played the last game IMO. Look at the kill descriptions. The SK has also taken the most aggressive approach possible by killing on the first two nights. Surely the sensible thing would have been to be more cautious and start slowly.

Bobby and Valley have both voted for me tonight when they didn't need to. Is this because they don't need to worry about votes?

I have no definite info on anyone. These are just suspicions. If I had to say who I was most suspicious of it would be ACS and Gerrez. No reasoning - they just set off the two loudest alarms in my head atm.

Anyway, I'm fairly sure I'm gonna swing tonight and we'll be down to 8 innocents against 2 bad guys. You need to start using your heads. Once again the bad guys are quietly pushing us into killing off our own.

So the only thing you have is based on my initial ****ing about after realising the game as started? The other two were just suckered into my antics <laugh>

PS...Biscan told me to say that and Tobes is busy SKing ;)
 
Well it's the glorious 12th and there are plenty of people acting like absolute partridges, setting things up nicely for the real SK to take one of them out.

I can understand why you're lynching me after the investigation result Sebb got, but we are playing this game as if it's a pure game of hide and seek without looking at any of the game play such as voting patterns or the kills.

I'm not going to spend ages fighting my corner as it seems fairly obvious what will happen tonight. However, for what it's worth, here's my thoughts.



I agreed straight away with your plan to mix up the investigations. The fact that I didn't cover every angle in my initial post makes me no more guilty than anybody else who doesn't cover every angle in every post. I threw out an idea that made sense - that doesn't make me guilty.

The original plan was to split between 2 and not 3 actions. I assumed you knew this as you had read the thread and that your decision to choose option 3 was deliberate. I did point out that the decision to vote for MITO was suicide and assumed that inferred that it went against the plan (post 121).

I investigated Surprised Pervert on night one because I thought he looked dodgy from a couple of things he said. The investigation showed that he is innocent so now I am assuming he is innocent.

I also think Sebb must be innocent. The only way Sebb would make that announcement on day 2 would be if he had received a flipped investigation. Anything else would be crazy at this stage of the game and I don't think Sebb plays like that.

I think the following people are inactive: Nolberto, Shimmy, & Rolando (joining Tash and MITO).

That leaves suspicion on two of the following: ACS, Biscan, Gerrez, Tobes, Bobby, or Valley.

Suspicions


The back and forward of last night makes me suspicious of a team up of 2 out of 3 of Gerrez, Biscan & Tobes.

The kills make me suspicious of ACS. Whoever the SK is played the last game IMO. Look at the kill descriptions. The SK has also taken the most aggressive approach possible by killing on the first two nights. Surely the sensible thing would have been to be more cautious and start slowly.

Bobby and Valley have both voted for me tonight when they didn't need to. Is this because they don't need to worry about votes?

I have no definite info on anyone. These are just suspicions. If I had to say who I was most suspicious of it would be ACS and Gerrez. No reasoning - they just set off the two loudest alarms in my head atm.

Anyway, I'm fairly sure I'm gonna swing tonight and we'll be down to 8 innocents against 2 bad guys. You need to start using your heads. Once again the bad guys are quietly pushing us into killing off our own.

Not saying you are guilty. I was just indicating why I re-investigated you.

I think some people should investigate Valley, Gerrez and Chippy tonight.

Would be helpful if that helpful Gamesmaster could be bottomed to answer my earlier query as to when do SK and MD choose to flip and who to flip on.
 
Not saying you are guilty. I was just indicating why I re-investigated you.

I think some people should investigate Valley, Gerrez and Chippy tonight.

Would be helpful if that helpful Gamesmaster could be bottomed to answer my earlier query as to when do SK and MD choose to flip and who to flip on.

Indeed does he say "X, Y and Z have investigated you this evening, pick one to flip"
 
Indeed does he say "X, Y and Z have investigated you this evening, pick one to flip"

If it is like that then it is ridiculously in their favour <laugh>

I'd imagine the MD as the subject is action before nightfall the same as the rest of us.
 
If it is like that then it is ridiculously in their favour <laugh>

I'd imagine the MD as the subject is action before nightfall the same as the rest of us.

So you think he just guesses who will investigate him? Seems harsh. I think JPF has already answered this but if 3 people investigate the same person on the same night, do they all get flipped. If not we need to use that to our advantage.
 
Indeed does he say "X, Y and Z have investigated you this evening, pick one to flip"
That would make no sense, as we'd have conflicting results and we'd therefore know 100% it was a flipped call (assuming we all shared like)
 
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So you think he just guesses who will investigate him? Seems harsh. I think JPF has already answered this but if 3 people investigate the same person on the same night, do they all get flipped. If not we need to use that to our advantage.

That is how actions in these games usually work. I've never known it be the other way either.

As I said above, with ten of us able to investigate (minus whoever opts to lynch or hide), the odds are we'll investigate someone they flip anyway. If I were the MD, I'd be picking innocents to flip too knowing they will more than likely be picked up by someone.
 
Somebody needs to start leading things here or we will get nowhere and we will be picked off one by one. It obviously can't be me as I am under suspicion. I suggest it should be either Sebb or SP as likely innocents.

As it stands we are wasting investigations by having far too many people voting for me. That in itself should be a red flag. Who would want us to be limiting our investigation abilities, or not worrying about saving votes? I am still highly suspicious of Gerrez, but in the interests of helping out

I withdraw my vote

Now, somebody, please start leading, do some proper analysis of clues as well as investigations and take the initiative!!
 
Somebody needs to start leading things here or we will get nowhere and we will be picked off one by one. It obviously can't be me as I am under suspicion. I suggest it should be either Sebb or SP as likely innocents.

As it stands we are wasting investigations by having far too many people voting for me. That in itself should be a red flag. Who would want us to be limiting our investigation abilities, or not worrying about saving votes? I am still highly suspicious of Gerrez, but in the interests of helping out

I withdraw my vote

Now, somebody, please start leading, do some proper analysis of clues as well as investigations and take the initiative!!

Since you've been fingered as guilty, I'd suggest not letting either of them lead now you've suggested them ;)
 
Somebody needs to start leading things here or we will get nowhere and we will be picked off one by one. It obviously can't be me as I am under suspicion. I suggest it should be either Sebb or SP as likely innocents.

As it stands we are wasting investigations by having far too many people voting for me. That in itself should be a red flag. Who would want us to be limiting our investigation abilities, or not worrying about saving votes? I am still highly suspicious of Gerrez, but in the interests of helping out

I withdraw my vote

Now, somebody, please start leading, do some proper analysis of clues as well as investigations and take the initiative!!

I have said this. If we are to lynch Nev, it should be agreed and then should be the minimum number required to lynch him. If Nev is happy to fall on his sword, then that should be one (two if we to guarantee he can't suddenly swing it knowing he is going anyway)

Then if anyone else changes we know they are guilty. It won't help if Nev is innocent but it would help looking at Sebb. However both could still be innocent, there are many possible reasons, one of which as Tobes suggests is random flipping to mess things around and blow smoke up in the air and render investigations useless.

I don't want to know who is investigating and who isn't. People just need to mix it up each night. Otherwise the hide option becomes worthless.
 
I have said this. If we are to lynch Nev, it should be agreed and then should be the minimum number required to lynch him. If Nev is happy to fall on his sword, then that should be one (two if we to guarantee he can't suddenly swing it knowing he is going anyway)

Then if anyone else changes we know they are guilty. It won't help if Nev is innocent but it would help looking at Sebb. However both could still be innocent, there are many possible reasons, one of which as Tobes suggests is random flipping to mess things around and blow smoke up in the air and render investigations useless.

I don't want to know who is investigating and who isn't. People just need to mix it up each night. Otherwise the hide option becomes worthless.

If we have identified the SK then three votes is the minimum required to guarantee they're lynched since the MD and SK can make late vote to either win (if only one vote) or tie (two votes) the lynch. Yes, this would also highlight who they are but why wouldn't they try to save themselves? Once dead it's game over.
 
Voting table, please helpful Gamemaster.

I would say 2 to lynch.

The rest to hide/investigate.

To investigate should include Valley, Chippy and Gerrez.

Answer to query would also be helpful.
 
If we have identified the SK then three votes is the minimum required to guarantee they're lynched since the MD and SK can make late vote to either win (if only one vote) or tie (two votes) the lynch. Yes, this would also highlight who they are but why wouldn't they try to save themselves? Once dead it's game over.

But I thought the MD gained the power to kill once the SK died? So would we not want to out them also by tempting them to vote?

2 or 3 is fine. If he is the SK then it is only going to be a matter of time.
 
I have said this. If we are to lynch Nev, it should be agreed and then should be the minimum number required to lynch him. If Nev is happy to fall on his sword, then that should be one (two if we to guarantee he can't suddenly swing it knowing he is going anyway)

Then if anyone else changes we know they are guilty. It won't help if Nev is innocent but it would help looking at Sebb. However both could still be innocent, there are many possible reasons, one of which as Tobes suggests is random flipping to mess things around and blow smoke up in the air and render investigations useless.

I don't want to know who is investigating and who isn't. People just need to mix it up each night. Otherwise the hide option becomes worthless.

I am not happy to fall on my sword, but I accept that it is the only way to go forward and not waste votes.

A landslide vote helps nobody except the bad guys. It ensures that a limited number of people can investigate and hide. The bad guys will be trying to convince us to use as many votes as possible tonight. The way I see it is that anyone wanting more than two votes has got to be guilty. The sensible option is either one vote (or if you don't trust me not to vote late then two votes). Worst case scenario in that situation is that I really am the SK and then the MD has revealed themselves by joining me in the vote just to achieve a 50/50 coin toss. You would then have both bad guys identified and game over.
 
If we have identified the SK then three votes is the minimum required to guarantee they're lynched since the MD and SK can make late vote to either win (if only one vote) or tie (two votes) the lynch. Yes, this would also highlight who they are but why wouldn't they try to save themselves? Once dead it's game over.

I would say 2 to lynch as if they save themselves then game over as we know who they are and at the moment we have the numbers.

Also we think we know one but other than slight suspicion on Valley we don't know second one. Therefore if late vote this should come out.
 
But I thought the MD gained the power to kill once the SK died? So would we not want to out them also by tempting them to vote?

2 or 3 is fine. If he is the SK then it is only going to be a matter of time.

That'll be another rule I've not seen then <laugh>
 
I would say 2 to lynch as if they save themselves then game over as we know who they are and at the moment we have the numbers.

Also we think we know one but other than slight suspicion on Valley we don't know second one. Therefore if late vote this should come out.

I agree, two votes could encourage the other one (SK or MD) to reveal themselves. If not then they're a one man team.
 
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